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Old 07-25-12, 01:20 PM
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The BTN fuse and the idiot lights.
yeaa lol I pulled the fuse out and they were on with the ignition in the on position
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yeaa lol I pulled the fuse out and they were on with the ignition in the on position
Absolutely normal.

You could pull the plug off of the back of the alternator and see if the car still runs. You could remove the two wire plug to the Main Relay and see if the car still runs as this will tell you if the relay is stuck closed or not. You could pull the 15 amp Engine fuse and see if the car turns off (this should definitely turn the car off).

And do the idiot lights stay on w/the car running as they should not.
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Originally Posted by satch

Absolutely normal.

You could pull the plug off of the back of the alternator and see if the car still runs. You could remove the two wire plug to the Main Relay and see if the car still runs as this will tell you if the relay is stuck closed or not. You could pull the 15 amp Engine fuse and see if the car turns off (this should definitely turn the car off).

And do the idiot lights stay on w/the car running as they should not.
where is this main relay at?
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and I don't see a 15amp fuse
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Engine fuse is in the interior fuse box. Main Relay is located by the trailing coil and has 4 wire plug in addition to the two wire plug.
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Ok so I checked the 15amp Engine fuse It's good. All I did was take it out and put it back in and then it turns off -___- maybe the Main relay is stuck closed? I'm not sure
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If the fuse was not good then the car would not run. It's not about the fuse being good or not, but why is it receiving voltage when it plainly should not. What you should do is pull the two wire plug at the Main Relay and check to see if the B/W wire has voltage to it as it should not. Do this w/the Engine fuse in place and the engine off. And do you have a multimeter?

And do your idiot lights stay on w/the car running. This is rather important and I'm not asking just to waste time.

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If the fuse was not good then the car would not run. It's not about the fuse being good or not, but why is it receiving voltage when it plainly should not. What you should do is pull the two wire plug at the Main Relay and check to see if the B/W wire has voltage to it as it should not. Do this w/the Engine fuse in place and the engine off. And do you have a multimeter?
I've got one but It got wet one time outside. And if it still works then I'll check it

So is the 2 wire plug on the left?
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The Main Relay has two plugs. One plug w/four wires has a B/W wire, a B/G wire, a B/Y wire, and a White/Blue wire. The other plug has two wires one is B/W and the other is Black. The question which begs being asked is why are you asking how to solve a problem when you have no way of diagnosing it? You need a multimeter and one that works.
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The Main Relay has two plugs. One plug w/four wires has a B/W wire, a B/G wire, a B/Y wire, and a White/Blue wire. The other plug has two wires one is B/W and the other is Black. The question which begs being asked is why are you asking how to solve a problem when you have no way of diagnosing it? You need a multimeter and one that works.
well true, but I've got another problem now. Won't start.. wtf
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Did you disconnect the plug(s) to the Main Relay and forget to plug them back in for the car will not start if either is unplugged. Same goes for the Engine fuse. Did you pull the Engine fuse and forget to plug it back in?
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Did you disconnect the plug(s) to the Main Relay and forget to plug them back in for the car will not start if either is unplugged. Same goes for the Engine fuse. Did you pull the Engine fuse and forget to plug it back in?
no everything is in place I'm getting low voltage to where it turns off on its own
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So the car starts up but dies due to low voltage? And you realize the low voltage by the voltmeter gauge. If so, then your alternator is likely problematic. If this were the case then recharge the battery and unplug the alternator's two wire plug and then try turning off the car in the normal fashion.
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Originally Posted by satch
So the car starts up but dies due to low voltage? And you realize the low voltage by the voltmeter gauge. If so, then your alternator is likely problematic. If this were the case then recharge the battery and unplug the alternator's two wire plug and then try turning off the car in the normal fashion.
I've just kept jump starting it, trying to get it back to my house with a friend and when it turns off we just start the process over again. So your saying unplug the wires to the back of the Alternator, charge the battery and run it off the battery?
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Originally Posted by iwantarx7!
I've just kept jump starting it, trying to get it back to my house with a friend and when it turns off we just start the process over again. So your saying unplug the wires to the back of the Alternator, charge the battery and run it off the battery?
Just to see if the car turns off in a proper manner. If it did then you've isolated the problem.
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Just to add to what satch said, I wouldn't try to run it for very long with out a working alt unless your in the market for a new battery anyways but if you, for some reason, have a deep cycle battery you might not kill it depending on how far you are moving it.
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Old 07-25-12, 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by satch

Just to see if the car turns off in a proper manner. If it did then you've isolated the problem.
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Yea I'm gonna try and get a new Alternator and try and find STOCK wires to the back of it so I won't have to deal with no stupid stuff
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