Checkpoint Engineering

The Checkpoint Motors website is now up. We have REAL cold air charges for your 2nd gen NA. Make your car feel like a turbo 2 car! Rotaries are our specialty!

www.checkpointmotors.net

Flyby116

Will you need to take out anything like the washer fluid and cut the frame at all?

How much about will it run?

It does look good though.

Thanks
Nick

scathcart

That's a bit of a BS hook and line if I ever heard it. Not saying the products aren't nice (as they look very good), but you'll have to show me a dyno graph of a stock N/A making 40 extra horsepower from just an air filter before you can get away with that one

Are your pullies cogged? What are the diameter of the pullies of the crank and alternator? You might have a customer.

RXSpyder

Yep. You might have a potential customer here too. How much will it run for for a 91 Rx7 Convertible?

Ryde _Or_Die

Ya thats an ebay line if I ever heard one, lol.

Ryde _Or_Die

Oh and I heard of a $350 CAI for FCs now from some new company. PLEASE tell me this is not you. Because that is the biggest ripoff I've ever heard of. Its hard to watch brand name intakes go for $150 even.

Fatty_FC3S

Well what do you know, Checkpoints site is up now!

As far as the power claim, i can give you an idea since i work there. We put the Checkpoint cold air intake, racing beat headers, racing beat exhuast, turbo 2 fuel pump and secondary injectors (in the NA secondaries) on an 1990 RX7 GXL. Seat of the pants feel was that it felt just like an 1988 turbo, but with slightly more top end. The intake makes the K&N filter sits in the mouth of the car, so its REALLY cold air (and with a slight ram air effect), not just some filter that just sits on the airflow meter in the hot engine bay. We have tested pretty much every air intake availiable for RX7s (1st 2nd and 3rd generations) and found that for the 2nd gen NA's this is without a doubt the best. We are waiting for a chance to dyno the intake and then we will post the results. There is a small amount of cutting/fitting involved, however there is no cutting of the windshield washer tanks or anything like that. All piping will be powdercoated and i believe the colors will be red or black. Its all mandrel bent and comes with the K&N filter, fittings, and airflowmeter adapter. Hope this explains some things for you.

Graham

Fatty_FC3S

Also, one of our customers with a silver 1990 NA with the setup i mentioned above handed a 94 300zx its *** the other day.......

Liquid Anarchy

iTrader: (2)

So... yes. It's a $350 ram-air intake. Little pricey for me, I'll stick with 3" PVC and see what I can make. For $350, I can get a header, intake ( that sits where yours does ) and filter... with a weeks worth of gas money!

kabooski

Liquid Anarchy WTF! ok so your too cheap to spend the cash...But damm there people out there that don't mind paying a "good" price for a "good" product

People like you is what keeps companies from making stuff for our cars............

Fatty_FC3S

In response to the pulley question:

They have "teeth" in them if thats what you meant by cogged. Look really cool, like a supercharger pulley on a 500ci big block. They are not the grooved/v type like what is normally on the rx7 and many other cars.

Keep in mind with regards to the intake that there is R&D time, welding, fitting and testing of many hours that went into making something that works well. Unlike other setups that claim to be an intake while only actually being a filter and a bracket and a hose clamp, the cold air setup involves more parts as well as a much more functional design that makes it a true intake. Think about a filter vs and AEM intake on an Integra, big power difference. You get what you pay for, it depends on how fast you want to go.

Graham

Fatty_FC3S

Liquid Anarchy WTF! ok so your too cheap to spend the cash...But damm there people out there that don't mind paying a "good" price for a "good" product

People like you is what keeps companies from making stuff for our cars............





This is why we designed this setup. We felt that there were no quality cold air setups in the much neglected NA RX7 market and we wanted to build a quality product that really works. Thanks for your comment kabooski.

Graham

Ryde _Or_Die

I'm just wondering why you put a TII pump and injectors in the NA. If you thought that was a great "seat-of-the-pants" feeling, take them back out and put the stock fuel equipment back in and then you will wonder why you ever swapped it to begin with.

RXSpyder

So its gonna be $350?

Ryde _Or_Die

Oh and to add, I do very much appreciate the new products being offered, I really do. But I honestly don't think that $350 is close to reasonable. And advertising saying that with the intake it will be like a TII, well you will be very lucky if you get 10hp out of that alone(to the wheels).

Flyby116

Yea $350 is alot of money for this. And I know alot of time and all have gone into making it but it doesnt seem that good of a deal. Unless you did have true Dyno specs to prove its worth it. If it was alittle less then $250 I would glady buy one no prob.

Nick

Liquid Anarchy

iTrader: (2)

Exactally. I'm not a cheapscate, but... $350 for something that is made for other cars, and sold, for a profit for $150.... you're STUPID to pay that.

Granted there arn't as may RX-7's as there are Civics... but that's a 275% jump in price. As said, $250 is still steep, but the rarety of our cars would justify it... but $350? Count me out. I'll take the .03% HP loss, and get started w/ $30 worth of PVC pipe, fittings, and connections.

SirRX7

Give us REAL numbers. Forget the racing beat headers, racing beat exhuast, turbo 2 fuel pump and secondary injectors. Pop that sucker on a stock NA and then tell us what improvement we'll get.
Using that same type of marketing I can say that I'm selling a bolt that'll make your car feel like a 20B. All you have to do is buy a 20B and put the bolt on it.
Oh well, at least you were honest in the fact that the other stuff was installed. Other companies would have hidden that info on microscopic lettering.

DCmina

What happens to the AFM?

HOZZMANRX7

iTrader: (43)

That is what I'd call a magic bolt.

Sign me up for a dozen of those!!!!!!

Seriously, I checked out your cold intake. Clever cold intake design and I give that the price has to cover you R&D costs. But, with apology, that sure doesn't look like $350 of engineering.

Dyno specs might change minds, though.

DuX

How about u put the prices on the site?? Its pointless to have a website that doesn't give prices. So you can't compare around.

DuX

what type of bullshit scam u running any way. Your ****. Product is ****. Reak of ****.

i8acobra

look man, part of being a business is taking some losses in the R&D department, you really want business, drop your price, you'll get more business, and will make the r&d money back faster, because more people will be buying your product, your intake is the same price as a damn s-afc...and it doesnt have a pretty blue display, lol...but seriously, im not trying to put you down or anything, but if you want to sell this stuff, drop the price, for example, drop it to 200 bucks, then anyone considering an AEM or something will see yours, and buy it because its a better product, and to get it out there more, have a grand opening special or something, that will get some business, trust me. I, for one, will not spend 350 dollars on an air intake, i can use that money to buy new intake manifolds for crying out loud man....but really, just listen to what i was telling you.

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i8acobra

one more thing, add the prices on the website, that will help...people are generally (generally meaning not EVERYONE) are too lazy to bother calling.

Evil Aviator

Hehehe, welcome back to our warm community. As you have seen, not too many people on this forum understand systems or build plans, so you are going to need to market each item separately or as a kit. See the Racing Beat and SR Motorsports web sites for examples. Personally, I read the "feel like a turbo 2 car" line as a general statement rather than a direct reference to your intake, but obviously others did not.

Also, nearly everyone who owns a 1Gen or 2Gen RX-7 is a cheap bastard, so that leaves you with the 3Gen owners who tend to only spend large amounts of money on shiny things which are easily installed. If you polish up that pulley kit, you should be able to sell them by the ton to the FD owners, LOL.

As for the website, besides with agreeing with i8acobra...
By changing the "our premier engine management system" from the Wolf web site to "the premier engine management system" the meaning has changed. As much as I like the Wolf, I know that it's not the premier EMS, and everyone else knows it, too. I suggest changing that statement before you loose more credibility. Yes, I know, it's probably just a typo.

What's the deal with the TII fuel system on an NA?

And for a change, some GOOD thoughts: The web site is not cluttered and easy to navigate. It's nice to see that someone actually uses a standalone EMS to test a CAI to make sure that it really IS cold air, and that it really does see a ram air pressure rise.