car starts up, then immediatly stalls
88 NA. I just got done replacing my oil pump (pull front cover). I double labeled everything and am pretty sure I hooked everything back up right. To get it to start, I have to turn the key to "on", then off a few times (starts fuel pump for a few secs to get fuel up to engine). Then it will start and immediately dies and makes no difference if I push pedal. Seems as if nothing is saying "I need more fuel." Any suggestions where I should look first? I have another rx to compare with and I can't see a difference anywhere. I didn't touch the fuel system, but I did have to remove the air pump, alt, etc.
Is the whole air intake system hooked up? You need to have the air tube running fron the AFM to the Throttle Body hooked up, or the flapper in the AFM wont open up, and the fuel pump will shut off..
rat
rat
The air is accounted for at the air flow meter, so any air coming in downstream of it isn't, causing it to start and immediately stall if the volume is great enough.
Edit: Have you checked the timing? I would double check the CAS install.
Edit: Have you checked the timing? I would double check the CAS install.
Last edited by Felix Wankel; Nov 4, 2002 at 07:07 PM.
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re: jrat the main air intake between the throttle body and air cleaner is hooked up, but how does the car know whether it is or isn't?
re: jrat the main air intake between the throttle body and air cleaner is hooked up, but how does the car know whether it is or isn't?
the first is when you turn the key to start. This activates the fuel pump.
The second is when you return the key to "run". If the AFM (the silver box under the air cleaner) isnt sending a signal that air is being pulled through it, the fuel pump will shut back off. Its a safety feature. I hear that there is a way to disable it, but I dont recommend that.
rat
*edit* There is one other way to get your pump to run, jumper the fuel pump connector.
Last edited by J-Rat; Nov 4, 2002 at 07:30 PM.
I connected the fuel pump jumper (yellow clip) to itself and the fuel pump turned on. Still didn't seem to want to start...but my battery is now dead, so I'll have to charge it tomorrow and try again. Any other suggestions? I checked the big AFM connector, seems to be snug.
no way it is flooding...tried the egi fuse trick...not only that, i have to play with the on/off key ignition to get fuel...seems like once fuel to start is gone, car off. Is there some AFM trick?? I searched for one.
can't it also be fouled plugs? has the car been sitting for awhile? mine was doing the same thing.. turned out she just wanted to be run more.. i boosted her and took her for a hour drive now she starts(and idels) everytime..
Ok, this sounds like I'm joking or something, but I'm not. My brother has a '90 N/A and was suffering the same problem. After he checked everything he could and found nothing amiss, he shelled out some good cash for some professional diagnostic work. Turns out it was, of all things, the reverse switch. I thought all that did was illuminate the back-up lights, but apparently it's responsible for more than just that. Honestly, I'm not BS'ing here. Just trying to help.
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TPS plugged in?
Both ignition coils plugged in?
AFM plugged in (is the plug damaged? It's happened before)?
Big vacuum leak (intake duct, BAC connection, etc.)?
Injector plugs tight?
Swap spark plugs.
It is almost certainly one of those things. You MUST check and verify everything manually. Never assume.
Both ignition coils plugged in?
AFM plugged in (is the plug damaged? It's happened before)?
Big vacuum leak (intake duct, BAC connection, etc.)?
Injector plugs tight?
Swap spark plugs.
It is almost certainly one of those things. You MUST check and verify everything manually. Never assume.
do you get a wierd whizzing noise as the engine's briefly running? my car did that when we put a new engine in and it turned out to be a wire clamp that got sandwiched on the intake. the whizzing noise was the air rushing at the leak.
john
john
The water thermo sensor is a part of the emissions system.......do I have to have coolant in the car for it to start?? I have a little, but I have a waterpump leak I have to address, but in the mean time I'd just like ot get it started to verify that what I fixed is fixed.
Starts now........the position of the crank angle sensor, with respect to the "timing bolt" (external) was correct, however when I reinserted it, I didn't put it back to neutral position.(line the hole up with the marker). Thanks to everyone for help!.
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