xWrathChildx

Have any of you attempted (and accomplished) putting subs in an fc? How did it turn out. It seems like it'd be kind of rough to do. IF ya did, give me some tips and pointers and such. I hate rap music, I hate rattling trunks, I just love music, and I love it loud. Thanks

Logan

PS: I'm looking for QUALITY sound, not just "mad phat beats yo."

sectachrome

i thought about it, but the thought of a random sub just rolling around back there and in plain site, i dunno. im thinking about getting an infinity basslink. i have seen people put subs in the storage bins. good idea, but i like putting stuff in there.

86GXL

i've got a single 10" MTX in my car. The amp is mounted in the pass. storage bin. Ask more specific questions please. I'm an installer so i'd love to help ya.
Edit: about to put in two Audiobahn 10's and a JBL amp all with fiberglass.

harjms

I'd go with a custom ported box....i use audiobahn flame q's and let me tell you that they beat hard....im running 500 watts each...they have a 900 RMS and they are 10s. The box is ported and has a volume of 1.5 cu/ft. Just make a custom box out of MDF ...u can use 1/2" thickness since its ported...(releasing its pressure)...but id make ur own box....make a weekend project and measure twice and cut once


Edit: i hit 139.9 dB in a contest....with 200 watts to each sub...now that i have a stronger amp and a +15dB gain ...i can reach probably about 145

cprx7

box with 2 10" Focals fit just fine in my trunk.. takes away a little over half of the usable space though.. you still got the bins and on top of them too

xWrathChildx

would 2 12's fit ok? Im looking to put the two amps in the bin (one for the subs one for speakers). Also, what would I have to get to power these? When do I need to start looking at another battery? Also, what do you mean by ported? What is probably the best bang-for-buck amp? Thanks for all the help.

Logan

harjms

First of all...i think 12s will fit...just custom making a box...u could get 2 15s in there if u want....u need atleast a 4 gauge amp kit if ur running more than 800 watts...and if u are worried about getting another battery....get a capacitor first...then see if its still underpowreing it and then get the 2nd battery..


Edit...theres 3 types of boxes...sealed, ported, bandpass.

Sealed= named is obvisous....,.totally sealed...the vibrations make the hitting sound

Ported = has a 3" diameter pvc or some type of hole that is like 6" deep in the box to pick up the bass ....its louder but u need more cu/ft

Bandpass - ported box in the back and the front of the subs are sealed w/ plexi glass to show off the stuff....

best amp for the buckk....i got a 2000 watt amp max for 149 its a lanzar...hey atleast its a name brand

86GXL

2 12's is ok. Build custom amp racks in the bins. Thats what i'm doin. Get a capacitor for each amp and you wont need another battery unless your running a TON of power. Mabey step up to an 80 or 90 amp alt. But upgrade your wiring if you do.

Ocelot

I did a sub install, and once I get the money, its coming out, but to be replaced by another sub install which I should have taken the time to plan out before. From what I hear putting subs in the bins isn't a good idea, but i've heard it has decent results from a few who have attempted it. If you want it to look clean, do the bin install, remove the spare tire (if you dont mind it not being in the car), or get two 10"s or 8"s. I have one 12" in the back, and it forced me to remove my hatch cover, because of the height of the enclosure even tipped on its back. If I could change the setup, I would do a dual 10" enclosure, so I could keep the hatch cover, and hide the setup so nobody goes to steal it, and it has a much cleaner look to it. If I don't do that, then i'll go for a bin install. The only rattle point on my car has been the back windshield where it comes in contact with the car when its closed. Just shoving some dynamat or something in that space should fix the problem (not even sure if its just my car or what), but you need to put more force on the hatch cover to slam it shut so it clicks into place with the extra padding in there. Oh and the back liscence plate, but just shove some padding behind it and its not a problem, I just used some paper towels, shoved them back there, and they haven't even gotten wet or anything, and work fine.

86GXL

you cant get good bass from the bins because the subs must be facing the rear of the car (about 1 or so feet from the back) for you to hear the bass. The best place to aim them is toward the corners of the hatch area. I often thought about the bins. But SQ would suck if you did that. I have pic of a false floor install in an FC if anyone wants to see them

cprx7

Depending on the brand of Sub you choose I guess you could do 2 12" but since you are aiming for quality sound and not "mad phat beats yo." you will want to stick with a sealed box, which require more space. I would do 2 10" it's plenty of bass imo.

I had two amps in my FC a Mcintosh MC427 (100x2) and a Mcintosh MC431M (100x4) both together drew around 100 amps or so full power, which I never really found the need to do. I used the stock alternator and it never gave me problems. I am pretty sure I was pimping it badly though.

harjms

The bins would be all right for small subs....like 8s...or if u have crappy 10s that cant have a lot of power....high end subs like to have room to breathe and make u shake! also for more ear piercing volume towards the subs towards teh hatch...so it rolls off the glass and comes foward

86GXL

In sealed boxes the more power the sub has the smaller the box you use. I preffere sealed to ported. Gives a much cleaner sound

harjms

This is true. and i was talking about a ported box when i said they like to breathe....sorry if that confused ya..i shoulda specified. i like sealed to just becuz u dont get port noise but when i hit 139.9 i was using ported...i havent yet to see a sealed box hit hard...of course i havent seen them in comp either

EDIT: plus in a sealed box u can make it "loaded" or stuff it with polyfill...which tricks the sub to make it think it has twice the much space ...just a little trick

imloggedin

i dont think 2 12's would fit very well, it would take up most of your hatch, even with a custom box.. youd almost have to go sealed (smaller), because you WANT them to be facing the rear or else youre going to lose some thump. 2 10's fit ok, it will POUND.. even in a sealed box they pound because of how close it is. 1 200watt 10" sub is louder in my rx7 than 2 10"s in my old lancer and the 1 12" 500watt sub i have in my accord, just because the hatchback. great cars for subs

86GXL

2 10's would be perfect. I've got one 10 only 200RMS and it pounds!!! Soon to be two 10's tho

harjms

Two 15s would fit....but this is like for competition...if ur only using ur hatch for it...if u dont need the room and u want to put some subs in it....u could make it the whole space

xWrathChildx

So what does a sealed box look like? Any pics or anything. How much am I looking at paying for a decent setup with 2 10's and an amp? Ya.

Logan

86GXL

You can look at mine CLICK HERE or just do a Sounddomain.com search. I have poor quality pics tho. For a decent system you'll be spending up to $1000 or more. Or you can go Ebay.

86GXL

You can look at mine CLICK HERE or just do a Sounddomain.com search. I have poor quality pics tho. For a decent system you'll be spending up to $1000 or more. Or you can go Ebay.

Edit: sorry double post

FC3S driver

iTrader: (1)

I made a box that was about 8 inches high and it wrapped 1/2 way around the rear strut tower. I just had one 10 in it offset to the side, it was pretty loud. I don't think yo need alot of sub, like a 15 for example, because it's only in a little hatch area, your not putting in a trunk or anything. if I can come up with a picture I will post it.

xWrathChildx

Holy jesus, 1000? How do you figure? Best buy has a special, 2 kenwood 12's and a 2x1200 (I think) watt amp for 378.

Logan

den

i've just installed an 8 inch jbl in the rear centre. its only 350w but is ideal as it means i can turn all of the bass off on the other speakers which makes them much clearer. the sub is mounted in its own enclosure and is fairly heavy so didn't move much when i first put it in. i've since put lots of sticky back velcro on the bottom of it and doen't move a bit. eventualy, when funds permit i'm gonna put two 8 inch subs in the bins.

ddub

what brand of amp is that? those deals are not usually the highest quality stuff, thats why they're so cheap... in my ford escape (SUV) i spent like 10,000 on audio stuff, not just the subs/speakers/deck/amps/power cap, but also in custom fabricated sub box with decron padding, custom metal brackets for the box, custom dash kit, sound dampening in the doors/hatch, etc.... if you want something good you'll need to spend some moeny, the 378 dollar one wont be that great and may not last that long. im not saying spend 10 g's like me, mine is way more than most anyone needs... you can check out my escapes system on the link in my sig for it on cardomain, right now its the #1 ranked escape on cardomain hehe

86GXL

$70 x 2 for caps $140
$100+ x 2 for subs $200
$150 x 2 for D class amps (JBL) $300
$20 for wiring kit $20
$100 x 2 for boxes $200

Grand Total $860 (and thats the cheap stuff)