Can N/A's Spit Flames?
10-17-04, 06:53 PM
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Any car that runs rich and has no catalytic converter can. Flames come as a result of unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold/exhaust system that is then ignited by combustion. You can't shoot flames with a cat because it finishes the burning process that the engine didn't complete and takes out the unburnt fuel that would be used flames.
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i heard that if u get a full exaust (headers, d-pipe, catback..etc) it is possible to shoot flames....if u search, i think you can find a few videos clips on N/A splitting flames
10-17-04, 06:57 PM
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Running EXTREMELY rich, I have shot flames from N/A with a cat.
I've yet to find out the condition of the cat though... could very well be gone.
I'll find out when I get my engine together and take it to get smogged.
My TPS was going out and spiked a lot... so it would throw extra fuel in all the time.
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rotfl...
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I've yet to find out the condition of the cat though... could very well be gone.
I'll find out when I get my engine together and take it to get smogged.
My TPS was going out and spiked a lot... so it would throw extra fuel in all the time.
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not this again...
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Originally Posted by barcode
Any car that runs rich and has no catalytic converter can. Flames come as a result of unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold/exhaust system that is then ignited by combustion. You can't shoot flames with a cat because it finishes the burning process that the engine didn't complete and takes out the unburnt fuel that would be used flames.
i have a cat and i still hear pops, even as low as 3000. running rich? probably. i have an safc and need it tuned. any catch? yes, my air pump isnt hooked up. i imagine the cat is stealing the O and letting the other elements ride through.
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Originally Posted by FC_DRIFTER
Does anyone have a step-by-step process to get it to do it?
there's also ignition cut and anti-lag. you can also set up a haltech (etc) to dump fuel in between shifts to keep a turbo spooled.
you can also search as this has been covered more times than i've posted on this site. you may find a few threads where people get "flamed" for this topic. yes, the cheesy pun was intended.
10-17-04, 07:43 PM
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some one up top, like 2 or 3 post said cars without catalytic converters can shoot flames....if you have downpipe, high-flow cat, cat bak, can it still shoot flames.
can a car that is running rich shoot flames with a cat?
can a car that is running rich shoot flames with a cat?
I love puns. Oh, and I would imagine full catless exhaust would shoot flames that would make even F-18's green with envy.
10-17-04, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by satoacs
some one up top, like 2 or 3 post said cars without catalytic converters can shoot flames....if you have downpipe, high-flow cat, cat bak, can it still shoot flames.
can a car that is running rich shoot flames with a cat?
can a car that is running rich shoot flames with a cat?
10-17-04, 07:50 PM
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if a car is running so improperly that it has a good working cat (meaning an air pump is in use) and still enough HCs to miserably fail an emissions test, than yes, i believe it should be able to shoot flames.
is anyone missing the term "improper"? i'm not saying that no rotary can shoot flames and not be in proper working order, but you dont want to run _that_ rich! it robs power, doesnt drive as well, and burns gas. if you are running that rich, fix the problem.
is anyone missing the term "improper"? i'm not saying that no rotary can shoot flames and not be in proper working order, but you dont want to run _that_ rich! it robs power, doesnt drive as well, and burns gas. if you are running that rich, fix the problem.
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Originally Posted by Kenteth
Cats kill flames. Basicaly they take the fuel that eventually lealds to fireballs at the exhaust exit and do their best to neutralize it by quickly oxidizing it. Not to mention running the car extra rich qill overbear the cat and evetually kill it out
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Originally Posted by casio
properly functioning cats with an air pump on a properly running car. their magic only goes so far. (trust me, i failed emissions )
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Damn interlaced video, I was hopin to see an asian in a bikini when I highlighted that pic :/ damn you
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depends, do you have a cat? if so, the cat, if 3 way, would take most of the air and strip it of its Oxygen, then not having O to reattach to the other elements. if you have a cat, like those i believe used on Trans Ams (i dont know what theyre called), then thats how that cat works. the air isnt pumped into the cat, but before it. if there's no cat and youre just giving the fuel air sooner, then i guess flames could be made in your exhaust before reaching the outside air. i'm not too sure, though.
10-18-04, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by casio
depends, do you have a cat? if so, the cat, if 3 way, would take most of the air and strip it of its Oxygen, then not having O to reattach to the other elements. if you have a cat, like those i believe used on Trans Ams (i dont know what theyre called), then thats how that cat works. the air isnt pumped into the cat, but before it. if there's no cat and youre just giving the fuel air sooner, then i guess flames could be made in your exhaust before reaching the outside air. i'm not too sure, though.
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I have in my 86 NA, actually I get after fires all the time just far enough up the pipe that I dont get falames. I've been told though that if you're directly behind my car at night you can see a small flash in the mufflers. But some times I get good flames. If i run my car very hard and get the exhaust warm enough, I will sometimes get a bright flash out back when I lift off to shift. But I have never seen the flame myself. Oh I also have a straight (no cat) 3" to 2.5" exhaust exiting out 2.5" stright through mufflers lol.