Can N/A's Spit Flames?
 

Just wondering if n/a's can spit flames... please no comments about why flames are gay or something like that...

Yes.



<-----use it.

Any car that runs rich and has no catalytic converter can. Flames come as a result of unburnt fuel in the exhaust manifold/exhaust system that is then ignited by combustion. You can't shoot flames with a cat because it finishes the burning process that the engine didn't complete and takes out the unburnt fuel that would be used flames.

i heard that if u get a full exaust (headers, d-pipe, catback..etc) it is possible to shoot flames....if u search, i think you can find a few videos clips on N/A splitting flames

Running EXTREMELY rich, I have shot flames from N/A with a cat.

I've yet to find out the condition of the cat though... could very well be gone.

I'll find out when I get my engine together and take it to get smogged. :(

My TPS was going out and spiked a lot... so it would throw extra fuel in all the time.

EDIT: rotfl...

--Gary

not this again...

<-------see pick.. that's my 87 with exhaust

Does anyone have a step-by-step process to get it to do it?

i believe the fuel is ignited by the heat of the exhaust. in which case, it would be "combusting" out the exhaust (fuel needs oxygen to burn). a cat doesnt finish the burning process. it has oxidation reduction and oxidation. it seperates the O (oxygen) from the other particles/elements and then reattaches O to the elements (H, C, N) producing CO2 (CO is the bad form), NOx and H2O (etc).
i have a cat and i still hear pops, even as low as 3000. running rich? probably. i have an safc and need it tuned. any catch? yes, my air pump isnt hooked up. i imagine the cat is stealing the O and letting the other elements ride through.

low compression motor. damaged sensors. purposely running rich, revving high, letting off. pretty much a lot of things that no one who cares about the performance of their car would do.
there's also ignition cut and anti-lag. you can also set up a haltech (etc) to dump fuel in between shifts to keep a turbo spooled.
you can also search as this has been covered more times than i've posted on this site. you may find a few threads where people get "flamed" for this topic. yes, the cheesy pun was intended.

some one up top, like 2 or 3 post said cars without catalytic converters can shoot flames....if you have downpipe, high-flow cat, cat bak, can it still shoot flames.
can a car that is running rich shoot flames with a cat?

Damn interlaced video, I was hopin to see an asian in a bikini when I highlighted that pic :/ damn you

^:rlaugh: I love puns. Oh, and I would imagine full catless exhaust would shoot flames that would make even F-18's green with envy.

Cats kill flames. Basicaly they take the fuel that eventually lealds to fireballs at the exhaust exit and do their best to neutralize it by quickly oxidizing it. Not to mention running the car extra rich qill overbear the cat and evetually kill it out

if a car is running so improperly that it has a good working cat (meaning an air pump is in use) and still enough HCs to miserably fail an emissions test, than yes, i believe it should be able to shoot flames.
is anyone missing the term "improper"? i'm not saying that no rotary can shoot flames and not be in proper working order, but you dont want to run _that_ rich! it robs power, doesnt drive as well, and burns gas. if you are running that rich, fix the problem.

properly functioning cats with an air pump on a properly running car. their magic only goes so far. (trust me, i failed emissions ;))

Right, the air pump would have to be working to supply the fuel with oxygen and electrons to oxidize. If the cat is straight through, or burnt up, you could very well shoot flames because the fuel will no longer get oxidized, and will make it all the way to the exit, still ready to combust.

Hahaha, yeah, shitty old ATI capture card! :D

so what would happen if i put my air pump back on and hook it up to my MP?.....

depends, do you have a cat? if so, the cat, if 3 way, would take most of the air and strip it of its Oxygen, then not having O to reattach to the other elements. if you have a cat, like those i believe used on Trans Ams (i dont know what theyre called), then thats how that cat works. the air isnt pumped into the cat, but before it. if there's no cat and youre just giving the fuel air sooner, then i guess flames could be made in your exhaust before reaching the outside air. i'm not too sure, though.

I'm wondering if the air pump could pump a significant amount of o2 into the exhaust to actually provide that combustion in the exhaust... I think it would probably be less of a fireball at the exit, and it would end up raising exhaust temps in the pipes. Not sure though...

maybe it'll damage the turbo as well....shocking the turbine

it would be well after the turbo.

I have in my 86 NA, actually I get after fires all the time just far enough up the pipe that I dont get falames. I've been told though that if you're directly behind my car at night you can see a small flash in the mufflers. But some times I get good flames. If i run my car very hard and get the exhaust warm enough, I will sometimes get a bright flash out back when I lift off to shift. But I have never seen the flame myself. Oh I also have a straight (no cat) 3" to 2.5" exhaust exiting out 2.5" stright through mufflers lol.