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Old 05-18-04, 04:00 PM
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Can I Make 400rwhp on a T04E?

I might heave access to a good deal on a T04E kit with everything to bnolt it on, Ill take care of teh fuel side seperately, can I make 400rwhp with the turbo and adequate fuel/intercooler/tuning?
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t04e is a family of turbochargers, that's too broad of a question to answer. With a t04e-57 trim, 87GTR put down 380rwhp on stock ports.
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Dood thats way to much power its not even streetable. Why woudl you do that ?

You know your going to need alot of fuel right? Or kaboom!

Um FC's cant make 400rwp

No stand alone??? the stock ecu will KILL YOU and you will die DIEEEE. IT CANT BE DONE
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The T04E "60" can flow enough air to support 400hp.


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gsrracer, I had no idea it was a family, I thought those numbers meant a specific turbo. I wasn't aware that there were different kinds. Thanks for clearing that up

Von, What are you talking about that 400rwhp is not streetable. And have you no faith in the FC? I will run a standalone and the right fuel setup as well as the right intercooler setup. Can't be done are powerful words.

Reted, is the t04e - 60 capable of making 400Rwhp or 400flywheel hp.
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FC's cant make 400whp? What, are you kidding? 500whp is possible.
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you can make 400whp iam going too. you have the cash you can do anything
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Originally posted by von
Dood thats way to much power its not even streetable. Why woudl you do that ?

You know your going to need alot of fuel right? Or kaboom!

Um FC's cant make 400rwp

No stand alone??? the stock ecu will KILL YOU and you will die DIEEEE. IT CANT BE DONE
I knew one with 600.
Come on now.
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Von dont dout the fc's. We've all seen fc's make over 400.
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1fastT2 made 405 at 15psi from a t04b with a 60-1 compressor, and thats only street tuned
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Originally posted by von
Dood thats way to much power its not even streetable. Why woudl you do that ?

You know your going to need alot of fuel right? Or kaboom!

Um FC's cant make 400rwp

No stand alone??? the stock ecu will KILL YOU and you will die DIEEEE. IT CANT BE DONE
Seeing that your post count is high as ****. I would have atleast expected some more knowledgeable information then that. FC in japan bumping out 800 hp.... fastest dragger in the rotary class. He runs on legal street tires too..
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My AE is making 408rwhp with a TO4s 60-1 @ 14psi with a mild streetport. Could have been more but on dyno day it was around 100 degrees outside.
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i think hes all sourd up because the post he did about a month ago. and everyone was bringing him down
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With enought boost, I think the T04E '60' can make 400whp on a rotary. I'm not sure you can do it in the 15psi zone though, probably closer to 18 psi.

You are better off getting a T04S/T04B 60-1. Although of older design, those turbo's do flow more.
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Originally posted by von
Dood thats way to much power its not even streetable. Why woudl you do that ?

You know your going to need alot of fuel right? Or kaboom!

Um FC's cant make 400rwp

No stand alone??? the stock ecu will KILL YOU and you will die DIEEEE. IT CANT BE DONE
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Originally posted by von
Dood thats way to much power its not even streetable. Why woudl you do that ?

You know your going to need alot of fuel right? Or kaboom!

Um FC's cant make 400rwp

No stand alone??? the stock ecu will KILL YOU and you will die DIEEEE. IT CANT BE DONE
They can't make 400rwhp?

B
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wow, this thread really took off. So which of the T04 family members can make 400rwhp at around 15-18 psi?
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oh, and I forgot to add that I have a large streetport on my rebuild.
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If you're asking about the one I've got, it's a T04E with a 60-1 compressor side and a .58 A/R hotside for fast as crap spoolup, good for the street.
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.58 A/R hot side??? sell this to a Honda owner. You have a T04E comp housing with a 60-1 wheel in it? What trim turbine?

For a streetable turbo making around 400wrhp @ 14~16 psi go with the T04S (a.k.a. 60-1, t60, t60-1, T04B 60-1).

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T04S eh? sounds like a good idea to me. Gonna need alot of fuel to push though. Oh well, start from the bottom up. Thanks for your help everyone.
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Originally posted by MazdaRx7Racer4Life
Reted, is the t04e - 60 capable of making 400Rwhp or 400flywheel hp.
400 to the ground.

The 60-1, T04E "60", and the TS04 all make about the same power and have about the same power potential on a 13B.


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As long as we are talking T04 series turbos here, can someone shed some light on exactly how to pick a turbo? People seem to like the 60-1, and a friend of mine is getting 330rwhp out of one at 10PSI on a stock port S4 motor, but when I try to run the numbers the 60-1 seems mis-sized (too big, not enough boost low, and lots of good range on the turbo left but the engine is already at 8k RPM), which makes me think I'm doing my math wrong. I've been using normal calculations for a 4-stroke and doubling the displacement number to 160CI (2.6L) and a VE of 100% (which seems too high)

Using those figures, with a T04E 50 trim at 12psi, it should give full boost from 2.5k all the way to redline.

I'm looking in your direction Ted

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hmmm......Im interested in this info too. I want a turbo that spools up decently quick but can hold the boost. 400rwhp is my definite goal. Fuel wise I will be going with a standalone and for injectors..............any ideas? (pump is already here, walbro 255)
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Just to throw out another question, what determines if the turbo will be able to hold boost until redline? Is it the size of the compressor, or the size of the exhaust side? For example, I have a T04B S5 hybrid turbo. V-trim wheel. Should I be able to hold 12psi to ~7500RPM with a SP engine?


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