Aesop Rock

Thank You, just pm me with those results

Markd01

First, and foremost, Congratulations on a job well done. Please keep up the good work. Great! Now, a few questions: What size upgraded injectors are recomended for the greater RPM increase? Is a fuel pump upgrade also recomended? What "bugs" were encountered and can they be eliminated?
Thanks

casio

i want someone to get a standalone, big streetport/half bridge/full bridge and see what this sucker can do. is there a "max hp" the supercharger is rated for? is there already a car with this with a heavily ported engine that's been dyno'd?

87base RX-7

yea i want too see it on a streetport motor without the powersteering and ac pulleys full 3 in exaust stand alone unit etc. the basics it should be beastly with the torque and hp numbers mmm mmm man i have too get another job!!! and start saving my money!! wow

jthompson02

I was wondering this. Did the car with the super cahrger have ANY other mods done to it. And like stated above what is the maximum power/boost it can handle.

Ive waited for this for a long time but im a Teenager and in college so money is kinda tight right now. I want to know if the car had any other mods done to it.

jthompson02

Also, are these super cahrgers bolton like yours, I mean like do they come with everything needed to hook them up ?
http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/cu...me.php?cat=273

Aesop Rock

i think that is the kit that requires a carb setup

Dltreezan

iTrader: (3)

so let me get this straight. For $3600 you can get an increase in horsepower by say 35 horses. Couldnt you spend 1500 or so on an NA and get around 176 horse to the ground? Full exhaust and bigger injectors, intake and some tuning would get you there pretty easily i would say.

SureShot

You have to drive a supercharger to appreciate how early the torque rolls in, and how smooth & broad the power band is.

High/late peak HP is cool, but is hard to drive.

Dltreezan

iTrader: (3)

I agree for a bolt on SC kit it is definitely par in price.....just go look at the kits for the hondas and they are about the same. I am not really knocking on the price of the kit, just thinking about what I myself would rather do and I think for those wanting something different and a really nice powerband this is great, even at the price, and would maybe be even better for AutoX given the throttle response, but for me instead of spending 4g for an extra 60 whp id rather spend 6g and have another 300.

casio

thats why i asked how far it could go. this supercharger, i believe, was done on a stock car. maybe exhaust (as many stock systems dont allow power; my didnt past ~5400rpm). how many turbo owners stay stock ecu/stock ports? not many, we hear about the ones with a 'safe' setup (tuned standalone) making gobs of power. they likely have a rebuilt, well ported engine with that nice new big turbo.
i am curious to see what max numbers could be made on this supercharger.

Aesop Rock

i'd bet with supportig mods, ex. nice big port, throttle boddy mod, REAL cai, true duals, maybe a nice pulley kit( if available ) that this supercharger kit could become a very, very potent add-on.

rxseven

I agree with that and the price is not uncommon but what I still want to know is why does this s/c kit cost $1600 more than their carbed s/c kit particularly since it does not include an EMS. Am I missing something here????

jon88se

I'm sure it's done on a stock car. 210 to the wheels with bolt ons as well should be pretty attainable, there was a guy with a base model white S4 running an old bolt on supercharger kit and the standard NA mods and I think his car put down about that much power with 550cc secondaries.

87base RX-7

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introVert

I would be in the "others" category. Although I only paid 3000.00 for the car, I love the hell outta my vert and would very seriously consider one of these kits. Since, however, I have just rolled 140,000 on the clock, I better spend the dough on the rebuild first. After that, I am totally in!!! I wanna be the first on my block to have an S/C'd vert!!

version13

Camdem Superchargers is owned by Atkins. They are actually in the same building

NZConvertible

Spraying fuel into the intake is not going to do that much for cooling. If that were the case no forced induction EFI engine would need an intercooler, as they all mount the injectors after the turbo or supercharger. There is some cooling effect as the fuel vapourises, but this should never be considered a viable alternative to a decent intercooler.

176rwhp is about 207fwhp, or 61hp more than a stock S4 NA. Not 35.
Possibly, but that would be a very foolish and meaningless comparison. A car with a 200hp supercharged or turbo'd 13B is always going to be much faster, torquier and more flexible than a 200hp NA 13B. The same applies to any other type of engine.
Uprated injectors would provide zero gains on an NA; they're simply not needed unless you have extreme porting (i.e. bridge). In fact without a fuel controller to fix the ridiculously rich mixtures you'd be going slower.

pianoprodigy

Dan and others who know...

I'm very confused about this kit. I understand that 176 rwhp on a forced induction car will be much faster than an 176 rwhp on an NA car, but I was under the impression that the carbed kits made much more power (the numbers I'm talking about from Camden's site are no longer available). I guess my questions in order are:

1. What series motor was used for the testing?

2. What kind of porting did the motor have?

3. What other modifications did the car have?

4. What were the rwhp and tq numbers? (Dyno chart would be extremely helpful)

5. What potential does this system have? (i.e. currently running 6 psi but could run 12 psi with more fuel)

I know that Camden's site said something about "260 horses" a while back. I do not know if this was a flywheel hp or rwhp number, but nothing in this thread references anything close to that number.

Thanks in advance for your responses as my 90 Vert eagerly awaits forced induction...

DEZERTE

This kit will be better than any DIY kit you might try to rig up, It was designed FOR the Rx7, not some pos for SC that was fabbed on, thats why its so expensive. Probably shouldnt complain too much **** tang

SonicRaT

iTrader: (6)

Not really, go with a better charger, build your own intake, and you're already beyond the kit.

ddub

A superchargers a supercharger... There are some that are better or worse than others, obviously, so if you're going to do your own kit just make sure you get a good one like sonicrat said.

And yes the reason it's so expensive is because it is a bolt on kit that anyone with basic car knowledge can probably put in (with instructions of course ). The DIY kits require "too much" work in some people's minds since you have to make everything needed for it. But a DIY kit can end up being better, or worse, all depends on how well you do it.

pianoprodigy

Bump for my questions...

SonicRaT

iTrader: (6)

I have another question, what's the max flow (cfm) on the camden charger @ it's redline?

pianoprodigy

Bump again for my questions...