Quit flogging the dead horse that's decomposed into dust, we know this already. A stock port turbo can get to that pretty easily.... Oh well, some people just have the money to **** away.

 

Sorry

But whatever floats someones boat, I guess..

 

Or rather, their yacht if they can afford this kit.

 

LOL nice

 

man its about the torque curve they are gettin 200lb ft of torque at 4000 rpm!!! its all about the power bein lineer and insanly useful cuz u dont have a turbo u have to keep spooled so it would be a ton more enjoyable to drive (not to mention easier) on a road coarse or back roads and if u figure u can pick up a real nice NA rx7 for 900$ u could drop the sc on it and do a couple other basic mods totalin maybe 4000 (suspension basic breather mods lighter pulleys etc it would be a awsome car and quite comparible to a turbo 2 for price to power

 

Or you could have a TII that runs 12's, spools by about 2400rpm, and makes your momma scream, for the same cost. If you want a charger, there are other (read, cheaper) means of doing so. For $3k, I could have a damn whipple, which would be godlike.

 

What are you talking about? Ok fine here I'll lay it out for you since you are misinformed slightly...

We'll stick with you getting an na rx7 for 900 for now. The price of the kit is $3649.99, round that to 3650 for ease, you're up to 4550 after cost of car and s/c, this doesn't even include taxes and licensing on the car when you buy it, let alone whether a 900 dollar rx7 needs some work done to it, for now we'll assume no but obviously if it does it'll be more. Full exhaust (read header back) you can probably get away with for 500-600 bucks especially if you have the catback made custom rather than buying a kit, now we're up to 5050-5150, lets round to 5100 again for ease. Intake isn't costly, so I'm not going to include that, unless you're going for a custom CAI kit or something of the sort, but lets just assume you slap a cone filter on it and nothing more. Suspension, what are you talking about? All out or simple? Springs and shocks (good ones) figure another 500+ easy you're looking at 5600 now minimum, and that doesn't even inclue strut bars, sway bars, or anything else you want to do. Pulleys, maybe a lightweight flywheel, other simple things, figure another 800 maybe for everything else, again this could EASILY be more, now you're looking at 6400 again minimum. Now you're still at stock boost here, if you want to go up you'll need some new injectors, fuel pump, something to control them, figure another 600 bare minimum if you get the injectors used, whoa now you're at 7000! I could go on but you get the point.

Wherever you got 4000 from with that you were saying is far from the truth.

 

yea but if ur not afer the 1/4 mile the sc would be lighter (less piping) plus u could upgrade ur exaust on a NA car and not have to change it if u got the sc whereas u would for a turbo. but it all comes down to preferance some people love the sudden surge of power from a turbo along wit the sound of a pshhhhh from a blow off valve and some love the scream/howl of a sc along wit the linear powerband. Plus this kit is bolt on and is very well has some good R an D. So its not some eaton u grab off of some junk yard car and slap on there. I cant wait to here some of the results from people that get this kit dynoed wit some decent mods/porting cuz im very curious as to what its potential is

 

Oh yah I forgot about porting too. Ok, for full potential you'll want to port it as well, pretty much will be doing a rebuild at the same time as some things are recommended to be replaced during any tear down. Do all the work yourself spend maybe 400-500 on parts and tools for a minimal job, or upwards to 1000 if you have someone else do it. so 7400ish to 8000 now... That's getting pretty damn expensive for a car you originally bought for 900, which may or may not be in the best of condition.

 

sry i worded that wrong i meant the price of the car plus the sc plus the 4000 would get u a nice setup a grand for suspension 389$ for kyb AGX shocks wit free shipping then the RB suspension package wit springs and swaybars for 429 (dont know shipping for them) put 500 toward toward the brakes (as in pads lines etc) a grand for the exaust i think the S&J header is 250? 95$ for a magnaflow strait through cat, 599 for a apexi GT spec cat back and get some piping from a exaust shop and finish up the setup so now were down to around 2000 take that an put it under the hood for intake (port ur own intake manifold while ur at it and do the TB mod) ground and spark plug wires used T2 fuel fuel pump and if ur good find a used stand alone unit for the rest (also strip the car to lose all that usless weight like AC, interior except for dash etc)

 

Ok yah, your way you're still looking at over 8k so at least we're on the same page.

 

and i picked up my NA for 700 its a 87 but it was garage kept most of its life (except the last 2 yrs) 2 owners before me and there was a couple minor dents but some bondo done properly wit some matching paint and nobody notices. now the guy didnt realy know what he was sellin but anyway. also ive had the car for a little over a yr now and drive t pretty hard and have had notin go wrong and the only thing i have replaced is the fluids and breaks i put the 900 up there cuz that was 200 more than what i paid and that should get u a pretty nice NA

 

yea im jus sayin i think the kit is comproble in price for sombody that already has a NA (figurin in bother wit sellin car and buyin new one) to a t2

 

I guess if you're lazy enough then sure, spend more money and take it up da butt

Just joking here don't take it badly

 

im not man its cool jus if u got a NA wit some mods wit a SC ull be able to keep most of them whera as u sell the car u typically dont get any more for the mods. ohh and i noticed somtin i said was wrong since the sc comes wit a throttle body and intake manifold u dont have to port them lol i hope sombody gets this thing on a dyno wit a couple mods and some good tuning cuz i would like to find out what kind of numbers were lookin at

 

Too bad the eaton's more efficient.... As for the track, a supercharger ISN'T ALWAYS BETTER. I can autocross with my turbo spooled the entire time, in my powerband, big deal. Everyone keeps rambling on about low-end, when's the last time you launched at 2k rpm? When's the last time you went up a hill at 2krpm? The only real nice benefit, is you don't have the turbo lag, otherwise a properly suited turbo will be just fine. Yes, there was a lot of R&D, yes it's nice they're making a product for the rx7s, yes it's nice that it's DIFFERENT, but my god, at least they could've done was used something more efficient, that had a higher yield, especially for that price.

 

I say let's build a whipple based FC kit complete with fmic, piping, brackets, pulleys, basically everything but the injectors / ecu / fuel pump.

 

I'm all for that! 500hp sound good enough for a bolt on?

 

Yeah I'm all for that too, but it's not going to happen.

 

Give me $4k, and I'll make you a kit, lol.

 

My problem isn't the kit or the horsepower, it's that Atkins deliberately lies about what you can expect.

If you're going to pay $4000 for a kit like this, they damn well should spend more than 15 minutes describing it. Who in their right mind would drop $4000 on something that the manufacturer doesn't bother to advertise properly?

Oh, yes, and if you e-mail they they'll tell you whatever they think you want to hear to get you to buy one. "230 HP on a stock port 12a at 6psi." Sure!

Hell, they won't even post a dyno graph for their flagship product. And the numbers they quote are for a ported engine with a $1500 exhaust system. Nuts!

 

Those of with real supercharger knowlege can easily see the atkins kit for what it is . . . moral of the story, don't ever trust a vendor unless a dyno graph is posted.

 

pics of supercharger done

 

You really need bigger pics.

 

i dont know super chargers are always running but i love the sound of turbos and their BOV's and i love the way it feals when the bost kicks in so i think i will jsut stick to my idea of doing a TII converson with my vert because that will cost me 2 grand or less if i can find one at a junk yard as long as its not there for body dammage