Yes my spark wires are on correctly....and your right Josh...i do need help...that's why I'm here....so help or don't post

 

As a reminder the title of this thread is On the brink of small blocking my FC...talk me out of it guys! , so posts suggesting that he does swap out the engine with a piston engine will be removed from the thread.

He is not asking for help or reasons to put in a piston engine, he is asking for reasons not to.

thread pruned

 

Do you have your FUEL LINES hooked up incorrectly? Make SURE they are hooked up right. When I swapped the motor on my s4 N/A, we had the fuel lines backwards and it would only start with starting fluid.

I take it, when you pull your plugs they smell like FUEL?

It sounds like your timing or something may be wacked out...

Get a buddy with a truck and a tow-strap. Push your car down the street and try push starting it... Do it.

And don't give up; V8's are for pussies. (j/k)

 

Check the ground on the motor. I had a rebuild put in and they didn't ground the wire harness on the motor. just left it hanging. I tried for weeks to get the thing started and stay that way. I finally gave in and spend $300 for a guy to find it and fix it. Check that.

 

Fuel lines are on correctly now....when I first put the motor in they were wrong, but I fixed them way back

ground on the motor is sanded down and cleaned up as of last week...double checked with a test light....solid ground

 

i changed the plugs with all four BUR7's...because I figured the hotter plugs will help it fire up quicked. And I also blasted some starting fluid into the plug holes...now she's kicking over a little harder, but still not hard enough to start....I got the battery on the trickle charger, I'll try again tomorrow

 

I tested my latest motor that i got outta te junk yard for 100$ at 60 psi front and 60 psi rear and it started and i boosted teh **** outta it for a day before i shot a seal thru the cooling jacket (lol coolant gushing out the exhaust)

if you have atleast that much, should run. Get a new compression tester and test it. If you have atleast that much compression, you got that part right.

next, take off the upper intake, take the primaries out, hold them onto the rail, BY THE BODIES, im sure you know that, but i heard horror stories of ppl having fuel injected into their blood and dying. Get a friend to crank it, should alternate from one injector to the other. There you go fuel is covered


next, check for spark pulses. Make sure they are pulses and not just random sparks here and there. The only other thing i can think of is that he didnt correctly alternate the rotors on assembly.



If you have all of the three above things, pulsing and blowing correctly. should be no reason it wont start.


Hope that helped. Feel free to pm me for brainstorming.

 

Rebuilds can be a bitch to start. At minimum, I remember having to put two squirts (1 oz each) of ATF in each rotor housing, after clearing out all the raw fuel by removing plugs and spinning over the motor, to get enough compression to get my motor to fire.

Anything less than two 1oz squirts would not get the motor to even sound like it was trying to fire.

So yeah, pull the EGI fuse, remove lower plugs, spin over motor with throttle all the way down, squirt two 1oz pumps of ATF into each hole, and crank the motor with the throttle at least 1/4 the way open. That's right, give it some throttle when cranking or it won't fire.

Trust me, I've been through this for hours at a time. The above technique worked every time I got stuck.

 

Getting through all the BS. Let's try this again. Check the compression, if that's good then move on to the ignition system, make sure everything is working properly. If it is, then move on to fuel, I would hope by that point you have it running. Seriously, you need to post your findings with a compression test, If it fails that, take it back to the engine builder. I cannot advise you to keep the rotary engine in it because It seems that you are not trying hard enough to do so. It honestly sounds to me like you need to take this car to a rotary specialist. Not a forum where all these guessing games are being played.

 

As a reminder the title of this thread is On the brink of small blocking my FC...talk me out of it guys! , so posts suggesting that he does swap out the engine with a piston engine will be removed from the thread.

He is not asking for help or reasons to put in a piston engine, he is asking for reasons not to.

thread pruned again! dammit- Get a clue Falcoms, ManageIaMtHeRuThLeSs1, zumzum and owen is fat

 

I am trying to help, but I'm in Washington State and you're in NY. Find someone local that can come help or get the car to someone that can help. You've been going round and round on line and you still don't have a running car. Break the cycle and get your car running.

 

I can think of one good reason why you shouldn't do it.

You'll never be able to say "Would you like to play with my wankel?" again.

 

its about 12 per injector, friend got his fd injectors cleaned by witchhunter for around 40.

 

THERE IS NO POINT OWNING AN RX-7 IF IT DOESNT HAVE A ROTARY. Take it to a shop and get it fixed man. If you want a piston motor go buy an american piece of **** and stay away from the Rx-2's, 3's, 7's and 8's.

 

Seems like someone is trying to **** Icemark off. Sorry, my useless post to this thread.

Seroiusly, If a person wants a V-8 then go buy a V-8 car or truck. The "rotary" is what adds mistique to these cars. I think homebrewer is ignorant in his reply, or his car was a piece of **** to begin with. Mine has decent fuel economy, it's a bit lacking in the torque department though, I'll give you that one. And mine is very reliable. I have had no issues with the engine at all after install. I dont understand the last comment you made, about keeping it going. I am going to assume that you mean it idles higher than most other vehicles? To tell you the truth, my car will idle at 750, which is lower than my F-150. It seems to like around 800. Just my buck fiddy. (inflation)

 

It ran...for a brief time...about six seconds, and shut off....not starting anymore now

 

sounds like vacuum leaks...or a fuel pump not doing its job. Try an alternate fuel pump to see it itll idle. An n/a pump will suffice to idle it, just dont drive it.

if its running, you have compression. Check for vacuum leaks, properly wired afm, etc. I know when my tid fell off, my car would run for like 6 seconds, then quit. Over and over again i tried till i saw that it was off (was really dark out)

 

Back to basics. I started a thread, which was moved to suggestions, maybe you should go to suggestions, and read what I posted. As before, COMPRESSION TEST. You are wasting your time trying to put a , easy dog, piston motor , in the ROTARY MASTERPIECE. Again, listen, read, and do the compression test. Otherwise, quit your crying, and go talk to a GM dealer. If I paid an individual to fix my plumbing, I wouldn't get on the computer to ask how to stop the leak in my bathroom, I'd call the "Pipe Wizard" and tell him to fix it, or legal recourse would be his next door neighbor. Post compression, call your Wizard, or shut up.
This is getting old.

PEACE THE DOG

 

He's got a point there, lol.

 

as i said, and Icemark repeated for me....I don't have any compression numbers, because when I did the test it showed nothing. There is no way it has no compression because it ran for a brief time. I also can hear the huge blows from the spark plug holes. I know it has compression, enough to start, but i don't have an exact number for you.

 

Man MomboDogs you such a biznatch about this... If you cannot post more helpful things you are no different from those you are complaining about! Relax on the guy and if he want's to go piston to make his life easier so be it, its not your car.

Wannasee you just need to keep plugging away at it. I hope this is not your daily driver.

 

Not my daily driver, luckily....the Fiero is holdin up pretty good at that job.....for two years now....up to 181,000 miles on that little 2.8 and all i put into it were tires...love that car

 

I want you guys to know that everything you suggest, I am going to or already have tried.....I am taking all suggestions and any help I can get. I came here and not to a mechanic because there is a difference between a mechanic and a rotary mechanic. I am a technician at Toyota. I work with the top toyota tech in the nation, and he can't figure it out...I need rotary people for this problem...

 

Well, from your presious posts, you have all the important elements to make it run. You have spark, fuel and you seem to have compression. Is there anychance your timing is off, what about plug wires criscrossed? Fuel pressure sounds to be good from what you say.

 

Final response, from the dog, who is also new to rotary magic. I will make it as simple and gentle as I can. If you had someone "DO" your engine for you, have that "Genius" fix it. He did it, must have the answer for you. If your Fiero is such a gem to drive, and you love it so much, sell the RX , and get off your pity pot. I bitch and moan, and complain about my car, daily, but have enough respect for the people trying to help out, to swallow my arrogance, and LISTEN.

At this point dude, I really don't care about your problems anymore. I hope someone helps you out, cause you sure will sound retarded with your piston **** under the hood. Next time, put the trainings wheels back on the moped, and Call Mr. Rogers.
Oh, and last but not least, if you are a mechanic, excuse me, technician , why the hell are you even bothering us. Do what you do at Toyota when your stumped: Take it to a real Toyota technician, and have him fix it.

PEACE THE DOG