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Old Aug 4, 2001 | 11:14 PM
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Brake pads and S lines

Any recommendations on a good set of brake pads for street and occasion track use. Any ideas on where to get cheap steel brake lines. Do they make any difference over stock.
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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 12:01 AM
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Try Hawk HPS brake pads...

Check Mazdatrix http://www.mazdatrix.com/ for (stainless?) steel brake lines.&nbsp These give you better brake feel.



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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 06:40 AM
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Yeah, Hawk makes great pads. You'll see them on many cars at SCCA events and in CART, etc. Go with the HPS or HP+. The HP+ is a bit more agressive and will give better track performance. If you aren't going to the track much at all the HPS would be the best choice.

I just saw a set of Goodridge SS lines on www.thepartstrader.com Goodridge are a bit more expensive than the rest but you get what you pay for. The cheapest I found when I was looking was Russels (www.racesearch.com I think) for about $88 for the set.

I'd also recommend flushing your brake fluid before going to a track event. Track cars usually get fresh fluid every event or two just to make sure there's not alot of moisture in the lines. The more moisture the easier it is to boil the fluid. If money's not a problem find some AP or Motul fluid. If it is tight find a name brand DOT4 at PepBoys or the like. Don't use DOT5 synthetic. Synthetics have an expansion characteristic that makes them a no-no for track use.

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Old Aug 5, 2001 | 08:55 PM
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It's not DOT 5 "synthetic", it's DOT 5 SILICONE fluid.




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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks, for the suggestions on changing fluid. I haven't done this and I did notice a definite braking degradation after the first time at the track. I thought it was the pads. I'm planning to get the whole system flushed when I install new pads.

Speaking of flushing, how do you flush the clutch. The fluid in mine is black.

Also any one try ebc pads?
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by RETed
It's not DOT 5 "synthetic", it's DOT 5 SILICONE fluid.
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Yeah, what he said. Thanks for the correction.

Chris
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Old Aug 6, 2001 | 07:59 PM
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There's a bleed screw on the clutch at the slave cylinder. Use it just like a brake system. Keep pumping untill you get clean fluid and no air bubbles.

I've used EBC on quads but never a car. I tried (not terribly hard) to find a price quote on them for my Contour and couldn't. Got a source? Another alternative is Carbotech in Florida. They do their own Panther compound. I have a friend that has an ITB Escort and he swears by them. Try carbotech.com If that doesn't work let me know and I'll get their number.

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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by C. Ludwig
There's a bleed screw on the clutch at the slave cylinder. Use it just like a brake system. Keep pumping untill you get clean fluid and no air bubbles.

I've used EBC on quads but never a car. I tried (not terribly hard) to find a price quote on them for my Contour and couldn't. Got a source? Another alternative is Carbotech in Florida. They do their own Panther compound. I have a friend that has an ITB Escort and he swears by them. Try carbotech.com If that doesn't work let me know and I'll get their number.

Chris


http://www.carbotecheng.com


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Old Nov 10, 2001 | 12:34 PM
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Good to see Ted back!

I use Hawk HPS's on the street. They dust less than the Axis Metalmasters, and seem to last longer also. Good feel, no noise, and very little dust. Just what I wanted for the street.
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Old Nov 10, 2001 | 02:18 PM
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It's an old post, I think Ted is still MIA.

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Old Nov 10, 2001 | 02:34 PM
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www.fc3s.org has how-tos on installing SS brake lines, changing fluid, and changing clutch fluid and all of that
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