BOV question?
02-25-02, 06:41 PM
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BOV question?
All you guys that have blow off valves on your Fc t2, how does your sound?? I have turbo xs and it only makes that swoosh sound, but i heard some of them whistle and swoosh at the same time. Any of you have one of those? I don't know if it's The HKS one or BLITZ. I don't want to get the one that sounds as my turbo xs.
02-25-02, 07:21 PM
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Yes, it's the super sequential....
I've got some pics where you can "kinda" see it...
http://www.rx7t2.com/hksevc
I've got some pics where you can "kinda" see it...
http://www.rx7t2.com/hksevc
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02-26-02, 04:44 PM
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The TXR blow off valve doesn't sound very good :P but yeah it's sort of like the HKS SS, a wistle. If you let off the gas gently it will draw out the wistle, it sounds pretty cool. (I have it on my car) It also starts with a pshhh sound, so you get a "pshhh-eeeeeew!" sound
02-26-02, 05:23 PM
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Someone dropped this link on EFNet #rx7...
URL server is pretty slow in upload, so be patient.
http://alltrac.net/tuning/blowoffvalve.html
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URL server is pretty slow in upload, so be patient.
http://alltrac.net/tuning/blowoffvalve.html
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02-26-02, 05:29 PM
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i got the blitz whooshuuuu....
i like the hks sequential one also, but my roomate's 180sx has it already,
i have the old blitz, i think it's call the super sound bov or some stupid name like that, anyone know how the new blitz bov sounds?
i like the hks sequential one also, but my roomate's 180sx has it already,
i have the old blitz, i think it's call the super sound bov or some stupid name like that, anyone know how the new blitz bov sounds?
02-26-02, 05:40 PM
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The one I heard was different, alot of people in Japan have it. Pretty sure its a BOV, it sounds whenever they let off the gas. Its sooo frickin hard to describe. Kind of like water dripping really fast and a whistling. That sounds really weird but someone must know what I am talking about. I'll try to find a video with it.
02-26-02, 05:55 PM
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Here it is, go to davescholz.com and to Multimedia, then click drifting and download - fdchokudorispeed.mpg
Thanks to velocity.isfaster.com for the Slide Squad link!
Someone please recognize that sound. You hear it right as it goes by twice, and its not squealing tires.
Thanks to velocity.isfaster.com for the Slide Squad link!
Someone please recognize that sound. You hear it right as it goes by twice, and its not squealing tires.
02-26-02, 09:08 PM
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I installed the HKS SSQ blow off valve in my younger bro's WRX and it sounds sweeeeett! I guess my point is, the whisltling/swooshing sound is the HKS.. K, just wanted to let you know eventhough it's probably too late now... 
02-27-02, 05:09 PM
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how hard is to install that SSQ HKS bov? I mean i installed my turbo xs without welding or anything, can i do that with HKS if i buy just universal without the kit. It's cheaper.
02-27-02, 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by InfiniIIIREX
The one I heard was different, alot of people in Japan have it. Pretty sure its a BOV, it sounds whenever they let off the gas. Its sooo frickin hard to describe. Kind of like water dripping really fast and a whistling. That sounds really weird but someone must know what I am talking about. I'll try to find a video with it.
The one I heard was different, alot of people in Japan have it. Pretty sure its a BOV, it sounds whenever they let off the gas. Its sooo frickin hard to describe. Kind of like water dripping really fast and a whistling. That sounds really weird but someone must know what I am talking about. I'll try to find a video with it.
02-28-02, 04:29 AM
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Hello everyone.
First post in this forum, so please be patient with me.
Normally, I'm content with just looking for the information I want and leaving, but in response to the ""Turkey call", et al sound and what it is:
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
The sound is created when the intake line pressure has nowhere to go (because there is no BOV) and has to "back-pedal" against the turbine. The result is the sound in question. Most japanese run w/out a BOV because they're expensive as **** over here and aren't good for much but trying to impress your friends.
Hope this helps.
First post in this forum, so please be patient with me.
Normally, I'm content with just looking for the information I want and leaving, but in response to the ""Turkey call", et al sound and what it is:
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
The sound is created when the intake line pressure has nowhere to go (because there is no BOV) and has to "back-pedal" against the turbine. The result is the sound in question. Most japanese run w/out a BOV because they're expensive as **** over here and aren't good for much but trying to impress your friends.
Hope this helps.
02-28-02, 04:40 AM
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Sorry! One more thing...
Having a stock airbox will muffle the sound, as will having the flow meter infront of the turbine.
The answer (if you absolutely must back-pedal) is to a couple of things:
- if you have a good engine/fuel management system blow through the flow meter (wicked back-pedal from an open-faced turbine)
- the HKS Vein Pressure Converter (VPC) will eliminate the need for the flow meter (but for the price, you could afford your own stand-alone engine management system -- I did)
- get rid of the stock plastic crap from the front of the turbine on and just run a pipe with the flow meter... WARNING: I did this for a couple months, but blew the flow meter's guts out at 1.1 kilo of boost.
Good luck...
Having a stock airbox will muffle the sound, as will having the flow meter infront of the turbine.
The answer (if you absolutely must back-pedal) is to a couple of things:
- if you have a good engine/fuel management system blow through the flow meter (wicked back-pedal from an open-faced turbine)
- the HKS Vein Pressure Converter (VPC) will eliminate the need for the flow meter (but for the price, you could afford your own stand-alone engine management system -- I did)
- get rid of the stock plastic crap from the front of the turbine on and just run a pipe with the flow meter... WARNING: I did this for a couple months, but blew the flow meter's guts out at 1.1 kilo of boost.
Good luck...
02-28-02, 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by RotaryMiata
Hello everyone.
First post in this forum, so please be patient with me.
Normally, I'm content with just looking for the information I want and leaving, but in response to the ""Turkey call", et al sound and what it is:
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
The sound is created when the intake line pressure has nowhere to go (because there is no BOV) and has to "back-pedal" against the turbine. The result is the sound in question. Most japanese run w/out a BOV because they're expensive as **** over here and aren't good for much but trying to impress your friends.
Hope this helps.
Hello everyone.
First post in this forum, so please be patient with me.
Normally, I'm content with just looking for the information I want and leaving, but in response to the ""Turkey call", et al sound and what it is:
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
The sound is created when the intake line pressure has nowhere to go (because there is no BOV) and has to "back-pedal" against the turbine. The result is the sound in question. Most japanese run w/out a BOV because they're expensive as **** over here and aren't good for much but trying to impress your friends.
Hope this helps.
Yep, thats what I thought too....I mean, this sound is nothing like a BOV, or a big wastegate or the turbine slowing down or anything. It sounds much more like the engine is suddenly cutoff from the oxygen supply, and is "starving" for air. But not having a BOV at all ? Wouldnt this be too much for anything less of a race-prepped engine ?
I have heard this sound only on WRCs...
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Ace says:
"But not having a BOV at all ? Wouldnt this be too much for anything less of a race-prepped engine ? "
No way! It's being done by many, many cars every day. Hell, when I first started on my FC, I blew through the flow meter, running an open face turbine with no blow off on a stock motor.
I stuck it on the rollers and pulled 263ps on stock boost. It (the back-pedal) sounded nice, but nothing near what a ported 13B with a nice T04E sounds like!
The larger the turbine, the deeper the sound is. My buddy with the stock IHI bearing turbine on his WRX back-pedals so fast it sounds like a video game. Then again, a full-tune GT-R with a T-51R is awesome to listen to...
Trust me: anyone can run without a blow off. However, I wouldn't recommend it -- it's not healthy for the turbine at high boost. The cars you see racing and doing it on TV can do it because they don't have to pay for their turbines (sponsorship has its perks).
"But not having a BOV at all ? Wouldnt this be too much for anything less of a race-prepped engine ? "
No way! It's being done by many, many cars every day. Hell, when I first started on my FC, I blew through the flow meter, running an open face turbine with no blow off on a stock motor.
I stuck it on the rollers and pulled 263ps on stock boost. It (the back-pedal) sounded nice, but nothing near what a ported 13B with a nice T04E sounds like!
The larger the turbine, the deeper the sound is. My buddy with the stock IHI bearing turbine on his WRX back-pedals so fast it sounds like a video game. Then again, a full-tune GT-R with a T-51R is awesome to listen to...
Trust me: anyone can run without a blow off. However, I wouldn't recommend it -- it's not healthy for the turbine at high boost. The cars you see racing and doing it on TV can do it because they don't have to pay for their turbines (sponsorship has its perks).
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Originally posted by RotaryMiata
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
It is not a blowoff, but the absence of one. It is what we (being everyone I know) call "Back-pedal". Any boosted (read: turbo) car can do it simply by removing the BOV completely.
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We call it "compressor surge".
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We call it "compressor surge".
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http://www.arinc.com/fsemc/99report/sf-uals.pdf