2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

BOV question?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 28, 2002 | 07:30 PM
  #26  
NZConvertible's Avatar
I'm a boost creep...
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 15,608
Likes: 8
From: Auckland, New Zealand
Good to see aftermarket BOV’s being exposed as the marketing hype they are! At low boost levels there is no performance/reliability loss from not using one, the only reason manufacturers fit them is to eliminate the noise of compressor surge.
That’s not to say I don’t like the sound of a BOV (I prefer a subtler sound though, not a ricey “look at me” sound), I just can’t understand paying so much for no real gain
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 01:26 AM
  #27  
The Ace's Avatar
Greek Power
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 2,375
Likes: 0
From: Greece
Originally posted by RotaryMiata
Ace says:
"But not having a BOV at all ? Wouldnt this be too much for anything less of a race-prepped engine ? "

No way! It's being done by many, many cars every day. Hell, when I first started on my FC, I blew through the flow meter, running an open face turbine with no blow off on a stock motor....However, I wouldn't recommend it -- it's not healthy for the turbine at high boost. The cars you see racing and doing it on TV can do it because they don't have to pay for their turbines (sponsorship has its perks).
Thats what I meant. The feedback from the closed plates onto the turbo may make a pretty sound, but it hurts the turbo plenty... On WRCs the turbos are always made out of titanium (also the Makinnen Lancer and the Extreme Impreza have titanium turbines), so they can withstand this abuse, but stock turbos on TII or FDs ? I dont think this is a good idea.....
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:09 PM
  #28  
InfiniIIIREX's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
From: Pentagon City
Man I am glad RotaryMiata knew, I was expecting to buy some expensive Japanese imported BOV, but all I have to do is take mine off. I prefer the sound of the "back-pedal" over the whistle or psssh! over a BOV.
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:11 PM
  #29  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Originally posted by InfiniIIIREX
I prefer the sound of the "back-pedal" over the whistle or psssh! over a BOV.
I hope you like and can afford rebuilding your turbo every few months!



-Ted
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 06:14 PM
  #30  
InfiniIIIREX's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
From: Pentagon City
yeah thats going to suck
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 08:08 PM
  #31  
InfiniIIIREX's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
From: Pentagon City
But seriously is it THAT bad for your turbocharger (or should I say mine)?
Reply
Old Mar 1, 2002 | 08:17 PM
  #32  
RETed's Avatar
Lives on the Forum
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 26,664
Likes: 22
From: n
Take to a reputable turbo rebuild shop...



-Ted
Reply
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 12:35 AM
  #33  
InfiniIIIREX's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 813
Likes: 0
From: Pentagon City
I might put my old stock turbo back on and try this out just to see...
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2002 | 08:59 PM
  #34  
mikeric's Avatar
FB=OS Giken LSD
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (20)
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 2,279
Likes: 0
From: Wilmington, DE
Don't run boost without a BOV! Compressor surge is a bad thing for people that can't afford to buy now turbos all of the time. That "cool" sound you hear is your turbines being blown backwards, in my friend's case, they were blown off his 3K turbo. Buy a $200 BOV!
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2002 | 09:42 PM
  #35  
Gene's Avatar
10 lb. boost, 5lb. bag
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,075
Likes: 2
From: New York, NY
Yes, compressor surge is bad folks, mmmkay? Also there is a performance benefit... if you don't blow off the pressure and you stall the turbine, it has to spool again when you get into the next gear, because it's not spinning as hard. BTW, another valid reason to replace the stock BOV is that they often leak at increased boost levels. Or even at normal levels once they start to get old.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2002 | 10:58 PM
  #36  
SUPRAMAN
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 2,698
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville, FL
the dolphin sound from tokyo extreme racer is an aftermarket wastegate.
Reply
Old Aug 1, 2002 | 11:50 PM
  #37  
Barwick's Avatar
SCCA Rookie
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 1,936
Likes: 0
From: Sterling Heights, MI
I have the stock one and it sounds like NOTHING.. it's so friggin' quiet.. stupid "average joe" drivers like cars quiet..
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2002 | 03:36 AM
  #38  
TRURX7's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 314
Likes: 0
From: New Orleans
Originally posted by InfiniIIIREX
does the HKS sound like the one on Tokyo Xtreme Racer? Kind of like a bird, or the ghosts from Super Mario Bros.
ROFLMAO

Reply
Old Aug 2, 2002 | 03:48 AM
  #39  
600HP CLUB's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 725
Likes: 14
From: Northern California
i think this does the fluttering noise,
http://www.takakaira.com/php/template.php3?id=702&cat=2
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2002 | 12:47 PM
  #40  
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 100
Likes: 0
From: Texas
There is nothing to be gained by removing a BOV. Its there for a reason. As mentioned numerous times before, it eliminates compressor surge, also known as "boost spike". Not only does it keep your turbo from lagging as much, it also prevents more "back pressure" in the turbo, increasing turbo longevity. And it has that kick *** sound, too. Keep it on.
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2002 | 06:09 PM
  #41  
Piranha's Avatar
what 7
 
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 670
Likes: 1
From: Portage, MI
WRC cars have a system, I don't know what the name is, misfiring system or something, that puts fuel into the exhaust right by the turbine to spin the turbine up as the driver shifts. It beats the hell out of the turbo though.
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:09 AM
  #42  
TBoost's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 392
Likes: 0
From: Woodland Hills, CA
Well, guys I guess I'm in the minority here. My car gives me that flutter sound and I have a Greddy BOV on!!! Could the spring be too tight? What does tightening or loosening the spring do to the BOV? How do I know if I got it set properly?

Thanks,

-M
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 12:46 AM
  #43  
NRA T2's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 420
Likes: 0
From: wa
I've got a Greddy type-s and it goes "tckssssssseeeewwww" (sort of) and it is LAF, if I rev the engine from under the hood it almost hurts my ears, you can turn it down so it's a little quieter
Reply
Old Sep 18, 2002 | 09:42 AM
  #44  
RacerXtreme7's Avatar
NASA geek
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,215
Likes: 2
From: Virginia
Fluttering sounds from BOV usually means its NOT adjusted properly. What your hearing is the BOV piston oscilating up and down relieving boost pressure. This oscilation also is SURGE (pressure waves bouncing back and forth in your intake track from throttle plate to compressor wheel). NOT GOOD, adjust it!!!!! Also, alot of the noises people hear in racing videos and TV (World Rally etc.) are sequentual (sp?) trannys and gear whine from straight cut gears. A lot of times when gas is let off the back lash in the straight cut gears makes a what could be a BOV sound but isn't. Just for the record, I like whistle BOV.

~Mike.......
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
_Tones_
Adaptronic Engine Mgmt - AUS
10
May 25, 2021 05:37 AM
Nosferatu
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
7
Sep 5, 2015 02:13 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:17 PM.