Best intercooler piping setup....
Hey guys, i'm getting an intercooler kit custom made for my car and was wondering if you have pics of the best piping setup....
thats about it....
any more tips would be greatly appreciated, as always....
:P
thats about it....
any more tips would be greatly appreciated, as always....
:P
Originally Posted by RETed
Shortest...
Least amount of bends...
Slow, progressive bends...
Big enough to not choke the turbo...
Small enough to keep intake velocity up and lag down...
-Ted
Least amount of bends...
Slow, progressive bends...
Big enough to not choke the turbo...
Small enough to keep intake velocity up and lag down...
-Ted
i remember one guy posted his setup and there were a few flaws with hit, something about heat soak....
they quoted me a grand installed after tax and everything, thats canadian too....
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Originally Posted by RETed
Rule of thumb I use for IC piping diameters...
2.0" for up to 300hp at the wheels
2.5" for up to 400hp at the wheels
Over 400hp at the wheels, go 3.0".
Over 600hp, go to 3.5".
-Ted
2.0" for up to 300hp at the wheels
2.5" for up to 400hp at the wheels
Over 400hp at the wheels, go 3.0".
Over 600hp, go to 3.5".

-Ted
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RETed is my hero.. only for the fact that he lives on Fantasy Island.. *****!!!!
I have 2.5 Inch piping on a BNR stage III.. Haven't dynoed it, but from track times, its over 300.. should be 325 or better..
I actually think that the 2.5 is a bit large.. 2.25 or 2 i think might have been a better choice.....
I have 2.5 Inch piping on a BNR stage III.. Haven't dynoed it, but from track times, its over 300.. should be 325 or better..
I actually think that the 2.5 is a bit large.. 2.25 or 2 i think might have been a better choice.....
yeah the guy suggested 2 1/4 piping and can go as big as 2.5inches....
which would you guys suggest?...
another question though, he asked if i wanted it powder coated or ceramic coated, or no coating at all.... whats the differences?...
i'll be running a BNR stage 3 for sure....
:P
which would you guys suggest?...
another question though, he asked if i wanted it powder coated or ceramic coated, or no coating at all.... whats the differences?...
i'll be running a BNR stage 3 for sure....
:P
Originally Posted by RETed
Rule of thumb I use for IC piping diameters...
2.0" for up to 300hp at the wheels
2.5" for up to 400hp at the wheels
Over 400hp at the wheels, go 3.0".
Over 600hp, go to 3.5".
-Ted
2.0" for up to 300hp at the wheels
2.5" for up to 400hp at the wheels
Over 400hp at the wheels, go 3.0".
Over 600hp, go to 3.5".

-Ted
Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
RETed is my hero.. only for the fact that he lives on Fantasy Island.. *****!!!!
I have 2.5 Inch piping on a BNR stage III.. Haven't dynoed it, but from track times, its over 300.. should be 325 or better..
I actually think that the 2.5 is a bit large.. 2.25 or 2 i think might have been a better choice.....
I have 2.5 Inch piping on a BNR stage III.. Haven't dynoed it, but from track times, its over 300.. should be 325 or better..
I actually think that the 2.5 is a bit large.. 2.25 or 2 i think might have been a better choice.....
If you have about 300 rwhp or maybe a bit more and 2.5 is a bit large and you think 2.25 or 2 might have been a better choice then that is pretty much what that RETed guy said but you act like he is totally wrong. I don't get it. YearsOfDecay are you just joking?
the more flow you have the less boost you will be running from what i understand....
the bigger the turbo the more flow you need....
and since the intercooler is capable of 550hp i'll be using it as much as i can....
2.5inches should work prime....
.... i think....
the bigger the turbo the more flow you need....
and since the intercooler is capable of 550hp i'll be using it as much as i can....
2.5inches should work prime....
.... i think....
If you have a choice, it is always safer to go smaller.
It's better to have the better response from the smaller pipe than bang your head with potential turbo lag increase from the bigger pipe.
Unless you know for sure that a certain pipe diameter combination + turbo will work, those above numbers I've put down are just guidelines...
-Ted
It's better to have the better response from the smaller pipe than bang your head with potential turbo lag increase from the bigger pipe.
Unless you know for sure that a certain pipe diameter combination + turbo will work, those above numbers I've put down are just guidelines...
-Ted
yeah i wana run a BNR stage 3 in the near future but i will be running the front mount with the stock turbo for a little while....
i just looked in my engine bay, how the hell are they going to hav the piping comming out of each side of the engine bay, it doesent look right....
eep, help....
i just looked in my engine bay, how the hell are they going to hav the piping comming out of each side of the engine bay, it doesent look right....
eep, help....
Originally Posted by Archangels
i just looked in my engine bay, how the hell are they going to hav the piping comming out of each side of the engine bay, it doesent look right....
eep, help....
eep, help....

I'm almost ready to start finally getting my car ready for the big jump...
The intercooler is sitting in the garage.
The upgrade radiator will be ordered soon.
Hopefully it'll all be done over the next 2 to 3 weeks!
FMIC with no cutting?
Impossible?

-Ted
Originally Posted by RETed
It can be done, but you need to think about it. 
I'm almost ready to start finally getting my car ready for the big jump...
The intercooler is sitting in the garage.
The upgrade radiator will be ordered soon.
Hopefully it'll all be done over the next 2 to 3 weeks!
FMIC with no cutting?
Impossible?
-Ted

I'm almost ready to start finally getting my car ready for the big jump...
The intercooler is sitting in the garage.
The upgrade radiator will be ordered soon.
Hopefully it'll all be done over the next 2 to 3 weeks!
FMIC with no cutting?
Impossible?

-Ted
it can be done without cutting, it all depends on where the inlet/outlet of your fmic is.
NPR style is easy if you finesse it, they really have the best inlet/outlet location ive seen, the hks style with them sticking straight out the sides requires more curves and too much piping. i might clock my turbo 180deg. just to make the piping even shorter anfd pretty much completely straight.
kevin.
NPR style is easy if you finesse it, they really have the best inlet/outlet location ive seen, the hks style with them sticking straight out the sides requires more curves and too much piping. i might clock my turbo 180deg. just to make the piping even shorter anfd pretty much completely straight.
kevin.
Are there any cost effective mods/upgrades that can be made to enhance the performance of the stock location TMIC (besides icing it down)? I am getting a T04E-60 and as I understand it I am limited to about 10-12psi on the stock TMIC. Unless I want to break something :-)
An FMIC looks to be a pretty involved/expensive option. Plus I don't like the idea of more lag, I'm willing to trade some raw power for responsiveness, the car is a semi-daily driver for my personal amusement, not a competition car for weekends.
I was excited about the v-mount, until I learned that it requires cutting up the hood to really benefit from it - I'd like to keep the car externally as close to stock as possible. Plus I don't trust myself to do that kind of work, and hiring someone to do it is likely to cost big $$.
An FMIC looks to be a pretty involved/expensive option. Plus I don't like the idea of more lag, I'm willing to trade some raw power for responsiveness, the car is a semi-daily driver for my personal amusement, not a competition car for weekends.
I was excited about the v-mount, until I learned that it requires cutting up the hood to really benefit from it - I'd like to keep the car externally as close to stock as possible. Plus I don't trust myself to do that kind of work, and hiring someone to do it is likely to cost big $$.
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