Basic Touge Setup and overview
12-23-08, 06:54 PM
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Depends on the group and how much of a stickler the instructor you get is. Even if it's not a requirement, the instructor is already risking his neck getting in the car with you in the first place... the least you can do for him is provide proper safety equipment.
12-23-08, 08:51 PM
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What so your passenger can eat it if you crash? Be aware that if you're planning to attend any driving schools with it (which you absolutely should do!) where an instructor rides along, they're going to require equal seating and harnesses for both sides.
The rears are single piston slider type calipers. I'd recommend doing brake ducts on the fronts so you don't cook them.
I'd also recommend attending sanctioned track events instead of risking a nasty crash hours away from potential help on a mountain pass. Where do you live? There are good organizations with access to world-class tracks all over the place.
The rears are single piston slider type calipers. I'd recommend doing brake ducts on the fronts so you don't cook them.
I'd also recommend attending sanctioned track events instead of risking a nasty crash hours away from potential help on a mountain pass. Where do you live? There are good organizations with access to world-class tracks all over the place.
I live in Marietta, I would love to attend a school, I really do not have the time currently. I work 2 jobs and attend college. I am no idiot when it comes to driving, however I am not expert. I would consider myself better than the average person, however all that confidence is what gets people cocky and wreck. I spend lots of time driving my car when I can by myself so I don't try and show off.
Auto-cross is your best bet for learning your car.
If you are a student and under 24, show them the student ID and you'll pay a total of 20 bucks for that day's race.
Do not use racing harnesses without some sort of roll protection. You will likely suffer neck injuries or worse in a rollover.
If you are a student and under 24, show them the student ID and you'll pay a total of 20 bucks for that day's race.
Do not use racing harnesses without some sort of roll protection. You will likely suffer neck injuries or worse in a rollover.
I would love to get into Auto X, but that requires weekends of trailering my car to other states. As stated before, I work with Robi Spec and Forged at the Time Attack Events so my own events are not priority. My alignment is already set up for Touge/Drifting, I would rather not swap it to Auto X right now.
Oh and the cage will be going in, in a few days. I am searching forums for any measurements I can steal because Ill be making it from scratch with a pipe bender, chop saw and welder.
Maybe if I could get a way to Identity which diff is which I would know.
12-23-08, 09:19 PM
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12-24-08, 12:49 AM
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I would love to get into Auto X, but that requires weekends of trailering my car to other states. As stated before, I work with Robi Spec and Forged at the Time Attack Events so my own events are not priority. My alignment is already set up for Touge/Drifting, I would rather not swap it to Auto X right now.
Oh and the cage will be going in, in a few days. I am searching forums for any measurements I can steal because Ill be making it from scratch with a pipe bender, chop saw and welder.
12-24-08, 01:42 AM
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I assure you that there is an auto-x event within 50 miles of you, especially once spring rolls around. Trailering? Seriously? If you drive it around on the street why would you need to trailer it to event? Also the "setup" is a terrible excuse. Come on out, you'll learn more in a day than in all your hours of togueing.
My setup? My setup is the same, my alignment however is different. I did not set it up, I do not know what the numbers are, but currently I am quite pleased with the overall handling of the car
and do not wish to change how it reacts in the corners. I am still in the "learning process" of driving this particular car. The clutch on this car used to bind up on the flywheel because the parts are not supposed to go together, thus causing me to spin out at 70 miles an hour however luckily because I have done this before managed only to blow a rear driver side tire. The car is edgy, yet go-kart like. If I want to Auto-X the car does need to be realigned by someone that sets up suspensions. Go to a time attack event and watch a good modified 240sx SR20 front/intake/exhaust/tune is running in the 6 group out of 8 because of his camber and toe. I personally set my toe in the negative just a tad, and the camber in the positive, tires in the front at 28-29 (Falkien Azenis) rears at 31 maybe 32 on a hot day (sport *****). And in future I will be ajusting my brakes to 40% front, 60% rear. You wouldn't believe how much time you can save with a good alignment, brake adjustment and tire pressure.
12-24-08, 02:42 AM
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the camber in the positive, tires in the front at 28-29 (Falkien Azenis) rears at 31 maybe 32 on a hot day (sport *****). And in future I will be ajusting my brakes to 40% front, 60% rear. You wouldn't believe how much time you can save with a good alignment, brake adjustment and tire pressure.
You're seriously going to change the brake bias to 40F/60R?
12-24-08, 08:44 AM
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You don't have to mess with your alignment to attend an autox. At this stage in your path, your primary goal is seat time and gaining experience, not trying to shave every last 100th from your lap time.
You also need to learn about alignment so you have the ability to do it yourself and figure out for yourself what's wrong when the car starts acting weird. Positive camber? No way in hell do you want that on your car. Rear brake bias isn't going to work for you either because of weight transfer when you start slowing down. The weight comes right off the rears and they'll lock. Ask Robi to teach you, I met him at a Redline event here on the east coast, he knows his ****.
This stuff is the reason why I recommend going to driving events with NASA, SCCA or whoever where they have classroom time in addition to track time, they go over all aspects of handling dynamics and then send you out on the track to experience what you've learned. The Redline event I attended here in NJ scared the crap out of me, precisely because there were total noobs out there trying to drive at 10/10ths and set a good lap time with open passing. It didn't help that the flag station people were also noobs as the track had only opened a few months prior, and we had two cars get together in a serious way as a result when two cars went off (on the first green lap of the first session, on a track that nobody there had ever driven before!) and no yellow flag came out.
You also need to learn about alignment so you have the ability to do it yourself and figure out for yourself what's wrong when the car starts acting weird. Positive camber? No way in hell do you want that on your car. Rear brake bias isn't going to work for you either because of weight transfer when you start slowing down. The weight comes right off the rears and they'll lock. Ask Robi to teach you, I met him at a Redline event here on the east coast, he knows his ****.
This stuff is the reason why I recommend going to driving events with NASA, SCCA or whoever where they have classroom time in addition to track time, they go over all aspects of handling dynamics and then send you out on the track to experience what you've learned. The Redline event I attended here in NJ scared the crap out of me, precisely because there were total noobs out there trying to drive at 10/10ths and set a good lap time with open passing. It didn't help that the flag station people were also noobs as the track had only opened a few months prior, and we had two cars get together in a serious way as a result when two cars went off (on the first green lap of the first session, on a track that nobody there had ever driven before!) and no yellow flag came out.
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If you drive this car to the 100% on public mountain roads, why are you afraid to not only drive it but push it to 95% at a track?
Do you bring your truck with the trailer to the mountains too?
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Do you bring your truck with the trailer to the mountains too?
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12-24-08, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Blitanicle99
And in future I will be ajusting my brakes to 40% front, 60% rear.
12-24-08, 02:02 PM
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Now I KNOW your just a troll. No one is this ******* stupid. Do you have a Big Brake Kit or a different master cylinder setup? If your answer is no to both then you have no business changing your brake bias like that. Doing so is incredibly dangerous and extremely idiotic.
12-24-08, 02:27 PM
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Marietta.
Plan on doing the Greddy GREX big brake upgrade. And then re doing the front brake ducts and hopefully making some rear ones. I will probably have to cut into the side of the car to do so but it will be worth it. I was curious also to upgrading the master cylinder anyway, mine is leaking just a tad.
Hmm, I wouldn't know I do not play that game. I enjoyed Forza 2 however, I like how you can change your tuning set-ups. I have heard GT4 (Grand Tourismo) is similar.
Now I KNOW your just a troll. No one is this ******* stupid. Do you have a Big Brake Kit or a different master cylinder setup? If your answer is no to both then you have no business changing your brake bias like that. Doing so is incredibly dangerous and extremely idiotic.
Hmm, I wouldn't know I do not play that game. I enjoyed Forza 2 however, I like how you can change your tuning set-ups. I have heard GT4 (Grand Tourismo) is similar.
12-24-08, 07:58 PM
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12-24-08, 09:27 PM
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Are you kidding me? Half you girls on this board are bone stock and talk all the smack you want because your post count is high. Probably about 20 % aren't old enough to drink, so making useless "Ricer" comments are pretty idiotic.
I made a thread to ask others about their set-ups as well as some technical questions that I could not find with the search function. I actually plan on doing these things to my vehicle as I have a paying job and I am able to afford some of the things on my car.
And as for the "favourite thread" comment, you'll be beating off to thread of pictures when I drop in a LS1 with some goodies from Vengeance Racing. You think I am full of it? I don't care, I have the means, the shop and the connections to do this. The haters can fawk themselves.
I made a thread to ask others about their set-ups as well as some technical questions that I could not find with the search function. I actually plan on doing these things to my vehicle as I have a paying job and I am able to afford some of the things on my car.
And as for the "favourite thread" comment, you'll be beating off to thread of pictures when I drop in a LS1 with some goodies from Vengeance Racing. You think I am full of it? I don't care, I have the means, the shop and the connections to do this. The haters can fawk themselves.
12-24-08, 09:32 PM
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53.6%/46.4% - Crap!
Are you kidding me? Half you girls on this board are bone stock and talk all the smack you want because your post count is high. Probably about 20 % aren't old enough to drink, so making useless "Ricer" comments are pretty idiotic.
I made a thread to ask others about their set-ups as well as some technical questions that I could not find with the search function. I actually plan on doing these things to my vehicle as I have a paying job and I am able to afford some of the things on my car.
And as for the "favourite thread" comment, you'll be beating off to thread of pictures when I drop in a LS1 with some goodies from Vengeance Racing. You think I am full of it? I don't care, I have the means, the shop and the connections to do this. The haters can fawk themselves.
I made a thread to ask others about their set-ups as well as some technical questions that I could not find with the search function. I actually plan on doing these things to my vehicle as I have a paying job and I am able to afford some of the things on my car.
And as for the "favourite thread" comment, you'll be beating off to thread of pictures when I drop in a LS1 with some goodies from Vengeance Racing. You think I am full of it? I don't care, I have the means, the shop and the connections to do this. The haters can fawk themselves.
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