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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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auto to five speed swap

I want to do as much work as possible before taking the car to the shop. Dont have a hoist or many tools at my house. So far i have switched the pedals over and doing the gauges soon.
What else can i swap over, leaving the car driveable to the shop?

Also if for those of you who have done the swap. What did you do with the two sensors that connect to the clutch pedal? The writeups say just scrap them since there is no connecter
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:50 PM
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One sensor is for the starter. Its so you can't start the car in gear. Must press clutch to start car. The other, I'm not sure. Maybe for disabling the cruise control system.

The pedals is the hardest part. If you have the tranny, and the mount adapters and driveshaft, changing it shouldn't be too hard. About the only thing left to do though is to mount the clutch master cylinder.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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will the car run fine without the two sensors? well start fine
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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The car will start fine depending on how you wire the starter. If you put the pedals in, and haven't removed the auto tranny, and haven't rewired the starter system, then it should start fine. Once you remove the shifter equipment, you'll have to rewire the wiring to the starter to get it to start right... or you could always get a screwdriver an and do it that way
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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how to i do the re-wiring?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:11 PM
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So there nothing really else i can switch bymyself, with jackstands and basic tools?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Just finished my swap, so it's still fresh in my mind. The swap itself was ok, hardest part for me was the top tranny bolts and breaking the flywheel nut loose. As far as the wiring, go by the writeup that's on the forum. I switched back and forth between that one and the one on the Rotary Resurrection web site. One of the connector's that was attached to your auto tranny is a white 3 prong. Pigtail the bottom two together and tape or wire nut off. Extend the top to either of the red wires on your manual tranny. Now run the other red wire up to your shifter. Look for a 4 wire connector that used to hook up to your AT shifter. Splice into the black with yellow stripe. Finished, reverse lights now work and you've bypassed the starter inhibitor. Don't forget, on the bottom of your ignition switch, you have a cable that looks kind of like a brake cable that ran to your shifter. Disconnect and pull that sucker out. That was your steering wheel lock(I think). I couldn't turn the key until I took that cable loose. Also, if you look at where that cable connected at the ignition, you'll see a little pin held in place by I think one screw. Go ahead and take that off, if you don't that pin can vibrate back into place and lock out our ignition. Go ahead and gut it while you've got the column cover off. Like Project 84 said, the pedals are just about the hardest part. If you've already got the mount adaptor's and some basic tools I say go for it and do it yourself. Good luck.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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How long did the swap take you?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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2 weeks.

Actually, I was doing it by myself. On dirt. 40 miles from civilization. After work. With no electricity.

I'd go out to where I had it stored and do whatever I could before it got too dark to work. Biggest problem was the distance. Little things like "**** I broke that one, better go get a new one" would pretty much end the days work. Also, I made my own adaptors. Followed the RR instructions first and they didn't fit so had to go buy some C channel and refab them. Couldn't work on it every day due to rain, snow, hangover, etc. So, yeah. It took me two weeks. In actual manhours, I'd say 16. If you have stands, tools and all the equip. You should be able to do it over a weekend. Try to get a buddy to help. Especially with the auto drop. A manual tranny weighs in at under 100#, those automatics with the torque convertor feel like they weigh a ******* ton. Biggest PITA is all the extra crap you'll disconnect and leave hanging. I zip tied everything up, but I still don't like all that loose **** hanging out. Probably gonna rip out all my extra stuff, AC,PS make some room in my engine bay and clean everything up.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:50 PM
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Well i am going to try and make the brackets 2moro, and if all goes well maybe ill start it this week

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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Good luck. and good choice.

Automatic trannys are the devil. Just like the foozball.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Hmm. If you still need help I pulled the swap off in about 10 hours so pm me if you need help that isn't ECU related because I'm still trying to figure that one out.
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