2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992) 1986-1992 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections.

ATF for the carbon lock

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 12:34 AM
  #1  
RX7freak08's Avatar
Thread Starter
Wish he had a running rx7
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma City
ATF for the carbon lock

ok my brother that has been working on rotary engines for a long time told me why i'm probably getting bad compression is that my engine is carbon locked and he told me to use atf but see I have already looked it up and everything like that so don't worry. Now i did tell him that the atf does destory the oil seals and he said that is probably the only bad part to that.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 12:59 AM
  #2  
Rxxx-7_GSL-SE's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 238
Likes: 0
From: Coquitlam BC
yes atf is very corrosive and can burn through any soft seals it comes in contact with, like oil and coolant seals

http://www.aaroncake.net/rx-7/atftrick.htm
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 08:52 AM
  #3  
arghx's Avatar
rotorhead
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 16,205
Likes: 461
From: cold
ATF is good for unflooding but that's about it
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 10:41 AM
  #4  
RX7freak08's Avatar
Thread Starter
Wish he had a running rx7
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 1,180
Likes: 0
From: Oklahoma City
so it isn't good if my engine is so called carbon locked.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:04 AM
  #5  
TehMonkay's Avatar
Back in the game
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (-1)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 2,456
Likes: 2
From: Louisville KY
You could use seafoam.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:23 AM
  #6  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
If the engine is carbon locked, it's not going to turn at all. If seals are just stuck in place from carbon, it's going to make poor compression.

ATF doesn't actually dissolve carbon very well. Carb cleaner is much better and can be sprayed into each spark plug hole. Diesel fuel also works in place of ATF.

However if seals are stuck, you often have to disassemble the engine to unstick them. Even if you get the enging running well, all the crud remains in the grooves and causes the seals to re-stick or grind themselves to death. Carbon is VERY hard.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:25 AM
  #7  
RockLobster's Avatar
Let's get silly...
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 1,718
Likes: 10
From: Rosemount, MN
have it drink a can of seafoam at 4500 RPMs. If that dosnt help, it's teardown time.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 11:25 AM
  #8  
7dust's Avatar
Irregular Here
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,075
Likes: 4
From: Alvin, TX
PB Blaster Wurkt Fur Mee!
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 04:09 PM
  #9  
Aaron Cake's Avatar
Engine, Not Motor
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 29,798
Likes: 128
From: London, Ontario, Canada
Don't spray PB Blaster into the engine! It will eat the oil o-rings.
Reply
Old Mar 11, 2007 | 04:14 PM
  #10  
7dust's Avatar
Irregular Here
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Dec 2003
Posts: 3,075
Likes: 4
From: Alvin, TX
Originally Posted by Aaron Cake
Don't spray PB Blaster into the engine! It will eat the oil o-rings.
Too Late, Wurkt Grate!

I looked on the label and it said it was fine for removing carbon from apex seals.

Anyhoo, my jspec had no compression (seals were stuck in their grooves). Gave it a little shot in each spark plug hole and it fired right up.

Runs fine. If it ***** up, I'm blaming you for talking ****!
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Coochas
1st Generation Specific (1979-1985)
10
Oct 3, 2015 04:49 AM
rotor_veux
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
3
Sep 28, 2015 09:25 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:43 AM.