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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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apex seal

i just got a 1990 tII mazda rx7 and it has blown apex seals just wanted to know if any one knows where i can get some cheap and good.
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:54 PM
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umm... do you know what you are in for when "replacing" apex seals?
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Old Jul 31, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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why do you say that
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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Do you know that you have to remove the engine, take it all apart, get a rebuild kit, get another rotor housing, maybe another rotor and an iron(s), put it all back together correctly, and install it in the car again?
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:05 AM
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i know its hard
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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i got the time and i been trying to find a project like this
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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Rotary Aviation

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:08 AM
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thanks man
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:11 AM
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Get a rebuild video first to make sure that you're up to the task. Plus you will be more familier with what's involved.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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You need to do a little research, as replacing apex seals involves rebuilding the whole motor, and you will need to replace all the seals (and probably a rotor and housing) and not just the apex seals.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:01 AM
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No such thing as "cheap" and "good".
There is "cheap" and "crappy".
There is "expensive" and "good".
But sorry...no "cheap" and "good".


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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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people have seemed to have good luck with the www.rotaryaviation.com apex seals that are prices considerably lower than that of the mazda seals. check them out, they are 182 a sec witch is lower than the 350 or so for the oem seals.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
people have seemed to have good luck with the www.rotaryaviation.com apex seals that are prices considerably lower than that of the mazda seals. check them out, they are 182 a sec witch is lower than the 350 or so for the oem seals.
but hey 50 years of engineering cant be all wrong you know, i always use OEM seals in my rebuilds
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 12:55 PM
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182+ shipping for RA seals isn't that much more of a discount over the $240 for OEM apex seals. I'd go with the MAzda seals for the extra $10 per seal.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by scathcart
182+ shipping for RA seals isn't that much more of a discount over the $240 for OEM apex seals. I'd go with the MAzda seals for the extra $10 per seal.
where the heck do you buy ur oem seals? Mazdatrix sells them for $380 for a full set, not including springs, although you can reuse those usualy. compared to 180 for springs and seals at RA.
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:15 PM
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id like to know too? and does anyone know what kind of prices dealerships have for engine parts vs mazdatrix? because i have a 10% discount coupon (haha) that i got from the local mazda dealer to use and i may just go with that if the prices are the same as mazdatrix...cause i can just save like 150 bucks after everythings added together

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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 05:31 PM
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A set of apex seals from the local Mazda dealer up here is $380 Canadian, which is about $315 US. Springs are about $35 each per set (small and large).
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Old Aug 1, 2005 | 06:04 PM
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scathcart is probably getting them through the mazdacompetition website. You have to be a member of a racing orginization to be able to get those discounts. If I could have gotten that discount I would have went with the oem seals. Other wise RA seams to be the key.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 02:04 AM
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lol. Called my local mazda dealer and they wanted 520 bucks for 6 apex seals + 60 for springs. No thankyou.
If anyone who has a racing league affiliation wants to start selling these seals at the reduced price I think everyone would appreciate it, a lot! I want mazda oem seals but paying more than twice the RA seals price when it's only slightly better doesn't seem logical to me.

I just realized why mazdatrix always has better prices than mazda, or almost always. They have a racing team and get that hefty discount.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by johnnyg
A set of apex seals from the local Mazda dealer up here is $380 Canadian, which is about $315 US.
Holy ****!
I get old no-way-we-can-go-under-$60-PER-apex-seal at the local Mazda dealer down here!
And that's WITH a dealer discount!
Man, what are you Canadian's doing to get such cheap prices?!??!


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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Oh wait! I made a mistake! That was the Mazdatrix price....the local Mazda dealer wanted $46.22 per Apex seal, for a total of $277.32CDN, or $230USD.

The whole list of parts I wanted for my rebuild came to $1432USD from Mazdatrix, and $1291CDN at my local dealer (about $1070USD).

So, I don't know what we're doing up here, but I ain't gonna start asking
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 11:27 AM
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damn!!!! that is a good price! If I trusted anyone on this site anymore I would see if you could get me a set and I would pay you extra for the finders fee but alas I don't trust on this site anymore
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by locketine
where the heck do you buy ur oem seals?
Mazda dealer.
With 14% sales tax, it comes to under $240 US at the current exchange rate of 1.22 cdn per USD.
Springs not included.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
scathcart is probably getting them through the mazdacompetition website. You have to be a member of a racing orginization to be able to get those discounts. If I could have gotten that discount I would have went with the oem seals. Other wise RA seams to be the key.
Not a mazdacomp member. Dealer prices up here don't make it worth it for me to join.
eg: New S5 rotor housings are $530 cdn, taxes included... so $430 USD each.

Our prices are generally 20% lower than what the US pricing seems to be.
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Old Aug 2, 2005 | 05:09 PM
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oh sorry didn't see you where from canada, yeah you canadians get damn good prices. I guess the japanese like you guys better
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