Anyone have 4X 720 injectors & a S-AFC?
Anyone have 4X 720 injectors & a S-AFC?
I am trying to tune my setup 2X 720cc primaries and 2 1000cc secondaries. I am taking it on the Dyno .. but the only shop with a DynaPack in my area cannot get me in untill late December
so I was hoping you guys could list your current setup & mods to get me in the ball park untill December.
I didnˇ¦t figure anyone has my exact setup .. thatˇ¦s why I asked about 4 X 720ˇ¦s thatˇ¦s prolly the only thing close to what I have.. I will just divide the difference to adjust my 1000ˇ¦s based on your 720ˇ¦s
Thx a lot for the help,
And I will be sure to share my tuned info with you guys after I hit the Dynopack for a few Hrs. in December.
Even just some 720 secondary numbers might help .. if noone is running 4 of them.
so I was hoping you guys could list your current setup & mods to get me in the ball park untill December. I didnˇ¦t figure anyone has my exact setup .. thatˇ¦s why I asked about 4 X 720ˇ¦s thatˇ¦s prolly the only thing close to what I have.. I will just divide the difference to adjust my 1000ˇ¦s based on your 720ˇ¦s
Thx a lot for the help,
And I will be sure to share my tuned info with you guys after I hit the Dynopack for a few Hrs. in December.
Even just some 720 secondary numbers might help .. if noone is running 4 of them.
Okay … asuming I am running stock type boost levels while the primary injectors are running, does this make sense? 720-550/720 23.6% ?? or is there other things such as air flow Etc. I need to consider in this?
I am speaking only of the primay injectors and not exceeding 6 PSI of boost before the secondaries kick in.
Am I on the right track? Or is there way more to consider?
I am speaking only of the primay injectors and not exceeding 6 PSI of boost before the secondaries kick in.
Am I on the right track? Or is there way more to consider?
Okay I got to thinking again. $130/Hr at 3 Hrs + 60 for the Bung (dyno) thats $450! whats a wide and running now days? Fug-It im gonna order a wideband tommorow. anyone recomend a decent one I can tune with .. that they know works on a 88 TII? I'm going ot make it with a quick relese type setup .. so I can just buy spare bungs and use it on other cars. Thats the new plan.
the FJO ones are good for around $700usd if you don't have a cat you could make something to hold it in the exhuast tip so you can use it on other cars. that's what the dynos do anyways.
to start off with.... below 3800 rpm you have 30% more fuel then stock, and above that you have 53% more fuel.
so you could set those negs (-50 for 3800+) in there and you'd have a stock map. unless I did that wrong LOL....
before you have 1440 vrs 1100, and after you have 3440 vrs 2200
so you could set those negs (-50 for 3800+) in there and you'd have a stock map. unless I did that wrong LOL....
before you have 1440 vrs 1100, and after you have 3440 vrs 2200
Last edited by Scott 89t2; Oct 28, 2002 at 06:56 PM.
Originally posted by Scott 89t2
to start off with.... below 3800 rpm you have 30% more fuel then stock, and above that you have 53% more fuel.
so you could set those negs (-50 for 3800+) in there and you'd have a stock map. unless I did that wrong LOL....
before you have 1440 vrs 1100, and after you have 3440 vrs 2200
to start off with.... below 3800 rpm you have 30% more fuel then stock, and above that you have 53% more fuel.
so you could set those negs (-50 for 3800+) in there and you'd have a stock map. unless I did that wrong LOL....
before you have 1440 vrs 1100, and after you have 3440 vrs 2200
Originally posted by Rpeck
So do the primaries squirt at full power once the secondaries kick in?
So do the primaries squirt at full power once the secondaries kick in?

1100cc/min (stock primaries) is 76% of 1440cc/min (your primaries), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -24% to get to stock levels <3800rpm.
2200cc/min (stock primaries and secondaries) is 64% of 3440cc/min (your injectors), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -36% to get to stock levels >3800rpm.
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Originally posted by NZConvertible
1100cc/min (stock primaries) is 76% of 1440cc/min (your primaries), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -24% to get to stock levels <3800rpm.
2200cc/min (stock primaries and secondaries) is 64% of 3440cc/min (your injectors), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -36% to get to stock levels >3800rpm.
1100cc/min (stock primaries) is 76% of 1440cc/min (your primaries), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -24% to get to stock levels <3800rpm.
2200cc/min (stock primaries and secondaries) is 64% of 3440cc/min (your injectors), so you'd need to set the S-AFC to -36% to get to stock levels >3800rpm.
Thanks, that gives me a good place to start ... I will go far on the rich side of those numbers for now..
that can't be right LOL.... 3440 is over 50% more then 2200...
but wait... if you put it at -50 then it would only be at 1720. hmm.. I need to go back to school LOL
edit (for the 4th time) I'm gona shut up now lOL.
but wait... if you put it at -50 then it would only be at 1720. hmm.. I need to go back to school LOL

edit (for the 4th time) I'm gona shut up now lOL.
Last edited by Scott 89t2; Oct 29, 2002 at 03:07 AM.
Originally posted by Scott 89t2
that can't be right LOL.... 3440 is over 50% more then 2200...
that can't be right LOL.... 3440 is over 50% more then 2200...

You need to remember the S-AFC is reducing the flow of the bigger injectors, not increasing the flow of the smaller ones. So you need to take 1240 (36% of 3440) from 3440 to get 2200. That's what the S-AFC is calculating.
Don't worry, I had to run the numbers a few times before I was completely sure...
Last edited by NZConvertible; Oct 29, 2002 at 04:44 AM.
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