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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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Another stupid "How much boost" question...

Assume the following:

Stock ports, stock turbo.

RB turbo back, FMIC, Microtech LT-8s, 1000cc secondary injectors.

I want to run it on the stock turbo with all that, and get a rough tune in, so that I can go and switch to my bigger turbo. How much boost do you think I can run on the stocker?
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 10:16 PM
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14-15PSI tends to be the limit as most people say. After that its out of steam. Im running a stocker now and I dont think Ill try anything over 12 just to leave me some room.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:07 PM
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12 is the turbos efficiency range after that you are pushing mostly heat. On the TMIC it is a little to hot up there try and stay around 10-12 with that and 12 with a FMIC or 12-14 maybe with some injection.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 11:22 PM
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12? Even that is out of the efficiency range!!
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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yeah wrong one heres the right one.


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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:34 AM
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Nice pics, but not the right map for a Hitachi Ht-18
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:44 AM
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The last one is very similar to the HT-18
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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It is? And you have the HT-18 map to prove the similarity?
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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The inducer/compressor wheel used in the two turbos are well um basically the same.
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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can anyone tell me the stock inducer/exducer sizes for the stock compressor wheel?
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
The last one is very similar to the HT-18
If that TO4B wheel is so similar to the stock one then how come putting one in makes such a difference? That's pretty much all a BNR Stage 1 is.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:52 AM
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1000cc secondaries on a stock turbo and stock ports? Preparing for a bigger turbo in the near future? Seems like major overkill if not.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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check out the online shop manuals
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by iceblue
The inducer/compressor wheel used in the two turbos are well um basically the same.
Originally Posted by NZ_87_TURBO
can anyone tell me the stock inducer/exducer sizes for the stock compressor wheel?
I measured an S4 HT-18 compressor wheel and a TO4B compressor wheel this afternoon:

S4 HT-18: 12 blades, 43.8mm inducer, 63.0mm exducer
TO4B: 16 blades, 48.3mm inducer, 69.9mm exducer

So they're well um basically not even close...

This is backed up here:

http://www.turbocharged.com/catalog/comp_wheels.html

Mine appears to be a T04B-S. About the closest match to the stock compressor's dimensions is a T3-55, but it's a little small.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:18 AM
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http://208.62.166.66:82/guest/shop_manuals/
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by riverzendz
1000cc secondaries on a stock turbo and stock ports? Preparing for a bigger turbo in the near future? Seems like major overkill if not.
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Originally Posted by $100T2
Assume the following:

Stock ports, stock turbo.

RB turbo back, FMIC, Microtech LT-8s, 1000cc secondary injectors.

I want to run it on the stock turbo with all that, and get a rough tune in, so that I can go and switch to my bigger turbo. How much boost do you think I can run on the stocker?
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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you can run 14 to get a rough tune in, but you can only hold like 7 pounds to redline, so you're whole upper range of the powerband will need retuned with the big turbo. i just switched from a stock turbo at around 14psi to a big T4 ITS turbo, and theres a lot of higher rpm and higher boost tuning to be done.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:25 PM
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I Have TO4B-S wheel and a .60 ar housing. what sort of power can i make out of this motor with a street port . i ask to get an idea of what injectors to use.
I was gona go 660 primarys ( as i already have some that i got for free) and 800 secondrys but looking at the map on page 1 it looks like tis max efficency is anywhere upto 14psi ( but i dont know how to read that map.) 14psi is the same as the stock turbo. how much extra air will this move and am i wasting my money and time using this turbo
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