MazdaTed

I have searched but with no sucess. I tried asking in this thread https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/stock-anti-theft-system-searched-464661/ but no real answer.

My question is that when the alarm goes off it disables the starter right? So nobody could hot wire the car with the alarm going off right? If that is true does anybody know where in the circuit it disables it? In the ignition cyl, or somewhere just before the starter?

This is for a 89 vert if that makes a difference.

MazdaTed

Kick @$$! I was just looking though the wireing diagrams (that I just found by the way) Which if I am reading this correctly it says that the starter cut relay inside the Theft deterent control unit is after ther starter. so a hotwireing @$$hole would have to ground the circuit just before the relay for it to start properly since the relay is seems to be one of the last ones in the circuit. It would be easy to ground the starter at the starter but would it start? Doesnt the other things in the curcuit have to have power to start? So even if a theif was smart enough to do this It would take way the hell to long and I or my neighbor (which owes me since I have gotten up a 2am to turn off his computer in a storm while he was away) would go scare the bastard off, well my neighbor would anyway, I on the other hand would do horrible things to him.

I am no master electrition and have little experience, all I know is what the teacher told me in my baisic electronics class for aviation maintanance (we spent like 25 min covering wiring diagrams so I could be reading it wrong) But for now I must stop so I can read my airframe book.

If I am wrong could someone tell me.

Icemark

The starter kill relay for the security system is located under the hood on the drivers side shock tower. A theif would have to know this, and if he or she did, they would understand that just jumpering the two main leads together would be easier than making sure the trigger wire does not ground.

MazdaTed

But if they knew about all of this they would be stealing porches and and stuff (or at least a faster car like my miata).

Icemark

A good car thief does know this, and that is why the transponder systems are common on most modern vehicles that prevent the ECU from starting the car.

But remember 90% of cars are stolen by amateurs, or joy riding kids. Not professional car thieves.

And if your 91 Miata is faster than your FC, something is broken on your FC or the Miata has serious modifications.

gxlbiscuit

hes got a vert dude........ its not a nzconvertible kinda vert either....

Icemark

Yeah but he has a 89 vert, the fastest one out there. It should be a whole half second quicker than a pre-94 NA (Miata).

MazdaTed

Okay Icemark I have looked into this and found this on the interenet somewhere and will bring it here If I can find it that is.

MazdaTed

He He he , I pulled this from a link on YOUR FC FAQ!!
http://2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com/performance.html
O-60- RX-7 wins,
1/4 mile- MX-5 wins (which is what I was talking about),
Top speed- RX-7 owns.
Turning ability- MX-5 owns.

Remember, even though there is a 45 hp difference between the 2, 900 Lbs less is a big difference, which Really points in the miatas favor.

Icemark

Think you meant:
http://2ndgenrx7.freeservers.com/performance.html

and there you would have found:

91 Miata= 9.1 sec 0-60
89 convertible= 8.7 sec 0-60

The FC3C, a full half second, quicker.

and even if you wanted to do the lame 1/4 mile, the miata only is .1 sec faster at the end of the 1/4.

So again... if your RX-7 is not faster then there is something wrong with it.

and of course, I don't think that anyone will argue with the fact that the Miata, despite being a great sports car, is still a girls car.

MazdaTed

where I live If a car runs the 1/4 mile faster than another it is faster even if looking at it that way is lame. I have just gotten used to having to talk 1/4 mile to people thats all.

Yeah the girls are always asking for rides, they really dig it. So how many girls ask for rides in your car? none huh? but guys like it right?... thats okay... I guess.

Girl car or not the miata owns the RX-7 on an auto-x track (cant believe I just said that).

RX-7 is still cooler though.

Bluebase

Correct me if I'm wrong here (Icemark), but doesn't an S5 RX-7 have a higher top speed than a pre-'94 Miata? If we're talking which car is faster, the RX-7 can both out accelerate and ultimately "go faster" than a pre-'94 Miata. So, in real world street driving that would make the RX-7 a faster car MazdaTed.

Regardless, the Miata still is and will always be a chicks car.

iSP33D-for-J3SUS

Nothin' like gettin plastered on the track by a "girl's car" eh?

My friend had an 89 mustang that ran low 9's (never could break into high 8's ) and he got creamed by a turbo VW Beetle with Nitrous... girl's car or not - a fast car is a fast car.

iSP33D-for-J3SUS

Bluebase

We're talking stock cars here my friend. The right amount of money can make any car, no matter how gay it looks in stock form, pretty damn fast.

Icemark

Ah yeah, you know I (like 90% of the people here) live on the track doing quarter mile races... I doubt that even 75% of the members here have even ever been on a 1/4 mile track raceing. Most people here drive on the street, not the track.

Again the FC is only a tenth of a second slower in the quarter, but faster in the 0-60 and 0-100 as well as Bluebase mentioned the FC3C has a higher top speed. So even a mediocre start in a 1/4 mile race by the pre-94 Miata driver, and he has lost to the biggest, heaviest, fat'st RX-7 ever made.

actually all the girls I know think that the RX-7 vert is sexy, and ask for rides all the time...while they say the Miata is Cute (and actually most also comment on how Miatas are so small- but size doesn't matter right???

And I don't know if guys like it or not... That would not be important to me.

MazdaTed

I am not particulartly fond of drag racing, and the miata seems to be faster than the RX-7 on an autocross track, However on a much longer circuit track where you must reach higher speeds the RX-7 would probably do much better than the miata. The butt feel quarter mile and 0-60 seems to be close between the two, the miata does noticably feel faster in low-mid RPM ranges since the wankel seems to drag its *** at those low RPMs, but wound up very little difference.

Hopefully in a few years I will convert to a 13b for the miata. To fix the miatas major flaw, the reciprocating engine.

BTW the chick thing is my standard answer for when 2 dudes in a camaro pull up next to me and tell me I got a chick car, they get P**sed when I tell them that.
and when people comment on the size I usually ask them what they are compensating for with that huge escalade.