emagdnim

After much debate, I've decided that it's not worth it to make my RX-7 fast and pretty, and as much as I love rotories, FD's are a ripoff. So here's a list of what I could get possibly, let me know what you guys would do and why.

(Yes I know the DSMs are the same, but there are some body style differences, and Talons tend to be cheaper, so eh..)

F1blueRx7

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Nissan 240SX with an SR-20 DET and a june kit. Or the ka-24... That's my alternative to the FC.

DO NOT BUY A DELSOL.... it is not a sports car.... Get a miata if you want a little coupe

Rotorific

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A GSR is not worth it its only .02 faster than a base model LS integra so thats out Delsol VTEC b16a1 is pretty rare nothing special...SI b16a2 same as delsol vtec who cares they are all over the place youd be just another kid with an SI Talon TSI not bad car a little problematic but a good car overall watch out with the awd it could run into wear and tear problems and that is expensive i.e. my friend cracked the tranny caseing it ended costing more than what he paid for the car Celica all trac not a bad car it is a toyota which means reliable and is the same engine as the mr2 turbo so the parts are not that rare and can be bought at a fair price...Im with stupid i too would get a 240sx preferably a 97 you can do anything to that car like a damn honda and throw in a little turbo power and you can run 12 second time slips realiably all day long i do love nissans but they are heavy and thus the only downfall to them that and the ka24 sucks ******* *** being it is the same engine in the trucks and altimas OH yeah another downfall they use the same engine in about every car they car i.e. the new vq30de it was originally in the maxima now its in the altima and the altima is faster and cheaper than the max so they basically shot them self in the foot and now its in the 350z and a few suvs see what i mean bleh sorry i needed to release some thoughts

F1blueRx7

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Ok, I'm pretty interested in hearing why the ka-24de sucks ***... I think it's a pretty neat little(read:Big 4cyl) engine. My roomate has a 97 and it certainly can haul ***. We are about even as far as hp goes with the mods I have listed in my sig. All he has in an ingen intake. It sounds really angry tho, makes me wanna pee myself with he rev's it up.

gsracer

buzzzzzzzzzzz wrong! Geez where does all this bullshit come from I swear. With Intake/Header/Exhuast most gsr's are mid-high 14 second cars. With the same mods the ls's are low-mid 15 second cars. Stock for stock the ls will stay even in first, then into second it's bye bye time, in third gsr is gone.

If it was my money I would get a 5th gen hatch with the JDM b18c engine, and the JDM b16 tranny (comes with an lsd and the shorter fd) then from there start modding. With any driving ability at all you should be low 14's just with that swap and everything stock, then the fun begins....

Felix Wankel

None of the above.

Well, I'd kind of like to have an All-Trac, but good luck finding one.

banzaitoyota

Doesn't this NEED to be moved to General Automotive? Who cares?, it has nothing to pertain to FC3S's! move it outta here!

emagdnim

It does, I'm in love with my FC and therefore I trust you guys the most to ask about what to use to replace it because you know how I feel.

DaleClark

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Yeah, but at the end of the day, the car is still turning the wrong wheels . I hate front wheel drive cars with a passion!

If the RX-7 fell off the earth tomorrow, I would go for a early 240sx hatchback and do an SR swap. Those are some kickass, GREAT handling cars that are really well built and engineered.

Dale

Zach McAfee

I just voted for the Eclipse because I was thinking of the GS-T turbo model. And I wouldn't want a FWD car either. How boring is that?

KiyoKix

I'm slightly confused here...did you really mean FD (3rd gens) are a "rip-off" as you like to call it, or FC (2nd gens). I'm thinking you meant FC NA's right because to say that about either of the other cars (which stock stomp on anything you have in that list) would be utter blasphemy. Although I still like the FC NA better than anything in the list (perfect driving experience if you ask me), also I'd much rather be in a Silvia (S14 model being my favorite model w/S15 front conversion...I don't like the rear end of the S15...too soft) if I wasn't in a 7.

Rotorific

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ok thats bullshit because my friend a damn girl driver has ran a 15 flat with a short ram intake and a coffee can 5 dollar exhaust nothing else this is in an LS and my other friend has every god damn mod from AEM cold air no cat greddy power extreme headers vtec controller cams everything i know im forgeting little things and that ****** cant get out of the 15.6 range now those are two totally different drivers but stock the gsr runs a 15.6 and the ls runs a 15.8 besides i said its not worth it money wise i can make an LS way faster for the money i would spend to get a gsr that was my point i know you can make a gsr faster but its not worth it money wise than to just do an LS/vtec or supercharge and still have more cash left over than buying a god damn gsr


IF you really want to talk a gsr beater get a 93 mx6 or probe and put the klze engine in and that will whip the **** out of a gsr hands down get an lsd and it will compete with a type r integra allthough this may not be a car of your choice just an idea

banzaitoyota

MODS:
Please move this non-FC post over to General Automotive where it belongs.

"General Automotive
General automotive discussion, including other cars."

Rotorific

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ah jeez ok the truth is that the ka24 is originally a truck motor and everyone says it sucks because of its relatively small redline and low horsepower number this is because everyone that knows better knows about the sr20 and knows that in japan the 240sx/silvia is one of the most predominant cars in japan and it comes stock with 250hp most recently...so alot of people that know about the silvia feel the 240sx got robbed mainly cause in america we have the 300z and it was on its way out so nissan america didnt want a car that was lighter and turbo to help push big brother out the door earlier than it had to so thus we were stuck with a very beautiful 2 door coupe with 140-155hp an open differential and no turbo power the good side to the ka is that it is torquey thus why it was a truck motor that is why you think the 240sx is going some where torque is what gets you off the line and its easy to drift but 1/4 mile wise they are still 15 second cars just like rx7s but i know a few non turbo rx7s in the 14s so advantage rx7 hehe

RestoTII

I'm looking into the 1st gen eclipse since they don't have alot of the problems of the 2nd gen eclipse. Also, a friend at home is running 11's (and I've heard high 10's) in his GSX. They can be built really friggin fast for not TOO much money, but it'll be a fun project

Rotorific

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resto that is so true a guy around here running a gsx runs 10s all day and his car is mainly stock with a boost controller and upgraded turbo and some other little things mainly the internals are stock and he runs like 10.8 the main thing is that his car is stripped all the way even the side windows were stipped and aluminum is covering that now haha and yes the 1st gen had less problems and a key thing about 2nd gen motors is the crankwalk issue thats always a bad thing

Snrub

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So it was either a Civic or an FD? Oh well, have a nice life, don't let the door hit you on the way out.

RestoTII

I believe he meant the FC too... but much like my debate of what car to build after college, I'm tending to lean away (FAR away) from a 13BT or 13BREW because of reilability issues. The kid I mentioned with the GSX in the 10-11s area uses his to deliver pizzas. He drives his car every day. If you have a 10-11s Turbo Rotary and deliver pizzas, you'd better get good tips, cause you're gonna be replacing parts every weekend. And the drivetrain you'd need in an Rx7 to handle that wouldn't be easy to fix with Autozone parts either.

RETed

Where's the Hachi???


-Ted

NRA T2

those AWD Talons launch hard then drag like a bitch the power to weight ratio blows, I raced my friends and he popped ahead off the line then as soon as he hit 2nd bye bye

KiyoKix

True...very heavy cars, but tis the nature of AWD.

emagdnim

I did mean FD's guys, I like the engine but the price is just way out of my league. Banzaitoyota, you're the only one that has a problem with it, why are you so against this post? The reason none of those cars are RWD is because I get snow, and sometimes quite a bit, and unlike the FC most cars don't have nearly perfect weight distribution.

NRA T2

GTI VR6 is the only car I would get next to an Rx-7, unless I was rich, But none of the cars you listed are sports cars

Matlock

Im with RETed! Hachi!!!

Snrub

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A 2000 Civic Si or 1998+ Acura Integra GSR is actually not that different from the price of a FD. (neglecting maintanance)

If I HAD to choose I'd pick a DSM, but then again it was a no brainer when I bought a TII over a DSM or others.