I am really considering getting the plug and play adaptronic ecu for my S5 vert. Really, the only mods I have is a street port with turbo exhaust sleeves, and a free flowing "race type" exhaust connected to the factory header*.

*Which is incredibly loud, thus why I dont have headers yet!

Electrically, the car is sound and the car drives like new with factory ecu, I just want data logging capability. if I where to plug and play an adaptronic, does it come with the base OEM maps installed or am I going to have to do something?

 

It comes with a base map, but the car should still be tuned. You will also want to use an innovate wideband in conjuction with the ECU for the self tuning, and AFR logging. It also makes tuning 10x easier.

 

I am doing a NA Vert also...using a plug-and play unit

 

if all you're interested in is logging there is much cheaper alternatives...

DI-145 USB Data Acquisition Starter Kit
it's cheap and it works and the software is free. i use them for my digital compression testers.
you can set up the graphs to read in whatever units you want and calibrate them however you like.

you can get much better resolution and inputs with the $60 and up kits but it's not often you really need more accuracy than a 124 millisecond refresh.

nope, it's not plug n play but it is also quite literally 1/35th the cost.



hmmm, if i could find the ECU male/female plugs i could actually make plug and play FC diagnostic displays....

 

I that ecu really that easy? How bout for a S4 TII?

 

Regarding your loud exhaust: I have two 2" turbo mufflers on my 90 Vert. It sounds and looks awesome. Deep, bassey, subdued and sexy. Also 3" cat on a RP Bonez downpipe from the factory manifold.

My 88 TII has a single 3" turbo muffler on a 3" 'custom' POS exhaust. It also sounds great.

The vert has been running those flufflers for over 10 years and 40,000 miles now. They don't burn out because there is no packing. TII has been on for about 3000 miles.

Cheap, effective and local. FWIW.

Jack

 

Plug and play for s4 t2(also works with na too);

Adaptronic Select Mazda RX-7 ECU

 

Is Autometer wideband compatible?

 

 

hey that's pretty slick! 4 PID's for 30$ is pretty damned amazing. tps, map, ect, iat. yea if you could whip up a jumper harness, that'd be an excellent value for a cool little diag tool for sure. definitely gonna pick one of those up. thanks for sharing!

 

hmmm. it does have a mini usb port. wonder if you could download that program onto your phone. wonder if it can be fast enough to view injector waveforms...

 

i haven't checked to see if they finally made it work with an iphone or android devices, last i checked it hadn't.

for better refresh rate and 8 channel logging ability i would probably go with this one:
DI-149 USB Data Acquisition Starter Kit

 

wow that 8 channel logger would be pretty useful, but can it be made to measure ignition timing? the ecu can. injector pulse width? duty cycle?
it seems like it only reads in volts, and not in ohms, which is like the same thing but seems like setting it up could get to be a pain, instead of 20 percent tps, its just going to log voltage. i guess it comes down to whats in the software..

anyone tried these out??

 

there used to be a forum that had alot of helpful info but it's gone when i just checked now, replaced by a support FAQ forum which kinda sucks.

i know there were plenty of folks on there that have used them for logging in cars but i'm not that adept at software to figure out how they set up the parameters to turn say a digital input from CAS pulses to turn into a raw RPM number for example, but it is possible as i saw it on people's displays. granted i didn't spend alot of time trying to figure it out either, all i needed it to do was act as an oscilloscope to read the pressure transducer to read each rotor's compression.

 

looks like the voltage readings can be converted into any type of measurement. you can't measure resistance directly because resistance is viewed only on a dead circuit. you can view whatever the ecm has coming in, and whatever is going out. that kit is fast enough and max consistant voltage goes high enough to view injector pw/waveform. this is just a datalogger. no bi-directional controlling. no viewing of maps. only real time logging. for that price though, it's pretty incredible. setup looks pretty straight forward. just need to splice into the inputs/outputs at the ecm. pick this up and a small tablet and you'd be golden for viewing all your parameters all the time

 

yep, this is just an example of how i had it setup to read the compression, disregard the low figures as that engine was on its last legs and actually wound up nearly impossible to start before i yanked it out.



the sample rate on the $30 unit isn't stellar, the $60 and up units are much much faster. but you can see even the $30 unit gives accurate enough readings with its .028 second sampling. this whole frame is only about 2 seconds in duration.

i calibrated it on the nose at 100psi and correlated the voltage reading to a direct PSI reading.

at 9000RPMs though you will want better sampling rate of the better units for accuracy, this one is within 1% accuracy for 250RPM logging where ignition and injector duty cycles will be too rapid for it to keep up with. but for throttle sensor, IAT, ECT, AFM, etc the starter kit would be just fine for.

i use it with a mini windows based laptop, didn't check to see if they made any apps for it yet for more portable devices. i have this one set up to log both rotors at the same time but i actually just use the one leg, because doing both at the same time skews the cranking RPMs and the results too much.

the DI149 for example has 42 times as fast of a refresh sampling rate as the DI145 i pictured above. even at 9000 RPMs it would have closer knit interpolations than the DI145 has at 250 RPMs.

 

yea so you could have 8 windows running at once with the di149 then i guess? would slow things down for sure, but that unit is pretty damn fast. that's the rate of a scope for $60!
oh man technology is grand

 

yes it will divide the sampling rate so if you want to log something really intricate like injector duty at high revs then you should just log that single table at a time for the 10,000 hertz refresh rate. if you are logging it with 7 other inputs at the same time then the sample rate would only be 10,000/8 or 1250 hertz which is plenty for most inputs besides ignition/injection.

to gain full refresh is as simple as disabling all but the one channel you want to log in the software.

 

i mean really, is it not an oscilloscope with out the screen? for 60 bucks i would set it up as a multi vehicle general use tool.. in addition the aftermarket ecus...

 

lyger for member of the month!

 

this unit can run on linux os. so you could run it on an android phone or tablet. schweeeet

 

ive been using it for years, just not as a ECU live data logger. always thought it would make a useful ECU logging tool though.

 

do you know if the stock oil pressure sender sends varying voltage to the gauge? or is it just a switch? it is just 1/8npt though so i could just pick up a transducer, but hey...
it's too bad cuz i have that nice dual gauge pod that sits over the gauge cluster bonnet. and the triple that sits where the idiot light cluster resides. was waiting on finding a nice set of gauges. good thing i didn't buy any yet. can sell those, pick up a 7" tablet and mount that in the corner. nce thing too is that you won't need to run wires all through the engine bay. just under the dash and through to the ecm. except for oil pressure. a fraction of the cost, and no spaghetti!

 

sensor. not a switch
how ever it doesnt have voltage supplied, so there is no voltage to return.. i beleive it's max pressure at 0 ohms of resistence, and pressure drops resistence goes up.

 

perfect. thank you kindly!