DrifterX

i'm about to get a set of harnesses for the fc but not sure which one is best it's either the original 4 point individual mount or the the 3 point mount the (Y) harness i have no roll cage so it will go on the frame some feedback would help thanks.

snowball

none unless you like spinal compresion
you need a cage or some way to properly moun them

RXgirl7

If you are doing any sort of racing/time trials that requires a harness, you will be required to run a cage as well. Snowball is right, you will do more harm than good with an improperly mounted harness than if you just use your stock seatbelts. If you are racing, make sure that everything you do to the car complies with your CCR/GCR/comp rules. Most sanctioning bodies require that harnesses be changed every 2 years.

twilight slide

yeah spinal compression sucks for sure

DrifterX

hey (RXgirl7) good pic slide well the reason i'm geting this is becuase my Akita puked in my car after i got him home from hospital and the belts stink so bad that i had to put them in the trash and since i'm OKC there is no pick a part or anthing that i can another set so right i have no belts at all i will get the cage later on but untill then it would be okay to just use the side belts right? dont want to hurt my selft ahaha i would only use the top belts at the track or autox

DrifterX

found a set of 3" 5 point harness for $110

bacek

it is safer if you get a cage with the harness.... there are threads on here that already discuss the dangers of harnesses without cages etc...

DrifterX

i wonder if it's possible to remove the belts and clean them without braking something.

RXgirl7

It's easy to remove the belts. Just take off the plastic covering, the bolt is some weird size...5/8ths?? I don't remember exactly. They should come out pretty easily, same size bolt for both locations. I did this on my 89, it might be slightly different on your car, but the bolt size will be American.

Icemark

There are no Imperial/SAE bolts on a FC... metric 14mm or 15mm or 17mm

RXgirl7

Every seatbelt bolt in the US is 7/16ths. I double checked, the one on the FC is fine thread.

twilight slide

^^^^ shes right the one that holds the 'box' into the wall is 16mm or something weird like that. I had to go searching for it

Black91n/a

Another thing to consider is seats. It's not safe to run harnesses with the stock seats as there's no place for the harnesses to pass through, meaning they'll be on the outside of the seat and will be able to slip off during a collision. Running with just a lap belt is stupid and illegal (AFIK it's illegal to tamper with the safety devices).

I've attached a picture that shows what's safe and what's not when it comes to seats to be used with harnesses.

'87 turbo II

iTrader: (1)

mount them properly, at least get a bar for the B pillars and a proper seat to accept the harnesses. They say never have the belts bolted ot the frame (can kill you) and never have the belts just wrap around the seats (I forgot why but it's bed too) I read a 3 page article about it in PAS mag.

EDIT: did not see the post before me but you see that you can't cut corners with safety, if you're just getting them to look coo lthen you are being ricey and they won't help.

SupraMikesRX7

iTrader: (1)

You can insall a roll bar, or harness bar and use your harnesses without the hassle of a full cage or the worry of spinal compression.

I was involved in a 120mph wreck into a guardrail with a racing seat, 5 point harness, and harness bar. I wlked away without a scratch, bruise, or any soreness at all.

The equipment works. Use it. Use it correctly.

Best of luck.

-Mike

SupraMikesRX7

iTrader: (1)

It can pull out of the seat and send you into the steering wheel. Your head will never forgive you.

DrifterX

thanks for the info guys yeah i read before about the the spinal thing i just wasnt to sure about the mounting area oh i forgot to mention i have full bucket seats i would never mount them on the factory seats oh supra would you happen to have a link to were i can get the harness bar when i was talking about removing the belts i ment taking the entire belt out from the metal factory mount not just removing them from the car my mistake i took most of it apart was able to get them in the washing machine they look and smell better but just to make sure i will wash them 2 more times lol my belts are going to smell fresh