INeedMazda

what would i need to get around 400whp on a 89-91 13bt? I would like to know what would be the least expensive way to get that much power?

Supermac 7

you can build a reliable 400rwhp TII for about $6k.

you would need a new turbo setup, probably a 60-1, or a T04S series (something similar). new intercooler, probably a standalone EMU such as a haltech, full exhaust, diagnostic gauges, etc, and some dyno time. Proper fuel components are necessary.

Jameson

Barwick

Supermac7: What you listed right there is going to cost close to the $6k. You didn't include the cost of a full rebuild, etc..

New Turbo setup with associated piping - $1000?
New Intercooler, probably front mount? - $1000.
New engine managament computer - $1000+.
Full Racing Beat Exhaust - $800 after shipping.
New Intake - $100
Full engine rebuild, street port (or more?) proper tuning and setup of everything - $4000 or more.
Proper fuel components - $500?

Felix Wankel

Scratch that full RB exhaust or figure in the cost of a new downpipe, a full turbo upgrade won't work with the downpipe. $100 intake can go away, since with a standalone all you need is a $40 filter.

INeedMazda

Would it be better to buy a S5 t2 and fully rebuilt it, or to bye a s4 then swap in a s5 t2 in it then start modifying it with out rebuildint it? also how much more will one cost than the other(including cars, just estimate on how much they go for)? tanx

DCmina

Get the one on ebay for 10k

Sonic

There is a guy out here in Portland who's car is suposed to produce around 450whp.

He's got a Pineapple built motor
Haltec
GIANT turbo (not sure on size)
FMIC
and a bunch of other junk

With the price of the car he's about 10 grand into it. Pretty cheap if you ask me.

TriTurboGen3 RX-7

Could Hybrid stock T2 turbo's Produce 400RWHP(modified by BNR) With those mods listed ?

Scott 89t2

no

Gecko_7

Hybrid turbo can probely produce around 300-350 right?

TriTurboGen3 RX-7

Geck 7 i would like to know this also, as this is the Route i plan on taking.

Rotaryturbo

You don't have to have a rebuild as you can run the reliable 400rwhp on a stock series 5 block all day long with the proper tuning. You would only need a bult motor if:

1) You motor is trashed or has extremely high miles.

2) You want a little more leway to make a mistake or two more while tuning.

3) You absolutely have to have the 20 rwhp or so a street port will gain you.

Here is the setup I would suggest if you are starting with a known good block.

Haltech----------------------------$1100
60-1 Turbo-------------------------$900
HKS manifold----------------------$250
HKS wastegate-------------------$340
Boost Controller------------------$300
NPR intercooler-------------------$250
Intercooler piping and clamps-$200
Walbro fuel pump----------------$120
Cleaned 550 Primaries------------$50
1600 Secondaries----------------$200
Blowoff Valve----------------------$190
Fuel Pressure Regulator---------$170
Upgraded Radiator----------------$220
Electric Fan-------------------------$180
Custom Downpipe----------------$200
Apexi Single N1--------------------$450
Other extra parts needed-------$500

That setup will make 400 rwhp if tuned properly on a stock block for around $5600.

For those of you wondering about the hybrid route. It is possible to make around 350 rwhp with a 60-1 hybrid as long as there is very good tuning and a stand-alone on the vehicle.

Ben

$150FC

Hot damn. That's much cheaper than I thought. That means I'm that much closer with the TII i'm about to buy (I think). This is a good thread, i say.

Poindexter10thae

iTrader: (2)

Shieeeetttttt. You guys underestimate the internet way too much
ALL of this from Ebay
HKS PFC F-con- 175.00(not standalone, but works DAMN good)
HKS BOV-123.50
NPR FMIC 236.23
Blitz SSpec Boost controller 102.50
60-1 HiFI(not from ebay) -$400
J-spec motor(not from ebay)- 950
T2 drivetrain(Bought a series 5 parts car w/o engine)-$50
Exhaust components $250
ACT clutch-219.00

Grand total of $2506.23
Granted it may not put down 400 RWHP, but that is cheap as hell for a fast *** NA > T2 conversion

Supermac 7

uh, dude, all you have figured in for fuel is the F con, there are such things as injectors, fuel pump, upgraded lines, fpr, etc.

You can not get an exhaust that will sound good and flow enough air for $250. How about other little things such as the intercooler piping, etc?

i wouldn not try to run a 60-1 on the stock computer, but that's just me.

Jameson

RexRyder

iTrader: (10)

ne1 know how fast a s5 tii @ 400rwhp would do in the 1/4 with a really good driver, and a little weight reduction (around 300lbs or so)

Supermac 7

RexRyder, you are lookin at low 11's/high 10's.

Jameson

Gecko_7

Im guessing Low 11's

87GTR

iTrader: (61)

I ran 11.9 on stock ports with around 370rwhp.

scathcart

Did anyone read his question?

" I would like to know the least expensive way to get that much power".

$600 direct port nitrous system + $120 fuel pump would do 400 rwhp.

BoostedRotors

Im looking to make 330 WHP with a 60-1 without going standalone.

SPOautos

Alright. So yall say that 400 RWHP isn't possible out of Hybrid??? You know I can stuff a P trim in a hybrid...

Bryan
www.bnrsupercars.com

SPOautos

And do you know I can put a 62-1 compressor wheel in a B housing?

BoostedRotors

and do you know youre posting under stephens name???

FEARED7

Dammit Stephen! Stay off my computer! lol