White_FC

For a given power output a turbocharged engine will always come out cheaper to build.

(And thats not even talking about the better mid range torque for a given power output........ )

RETed

Wow, so when you got your 300hp PP motor built and running, let's go up against a 500hp single-turbo'd FC and see who is **** talking and who is talking smack.


Funny, I don't run any turbo timers in my car.

Ok, funny, so tell me where does it say a rotary engine has to be normally aspirated?  It's funny, forced induction mates very well with the rotary engine, and BSFC doesn't change drastically on average.  The rotary engine spits out over 30% of it's energy potential out the exhaust - it would be nice to utilize some of that wasted energy, wouldn't it?



-Ted

skunks

you know, lighting a car does the same thing as upping hp/torque yet allows you to handle the car better/faster

I know for a fact, a FC can get down to 1300lbs with out engine/tranny/interior and gastank but still have stock doors, stock windows, steering rack and suspension+tires...

bingoboy

+

+

= that should do it.

kidcaffeine

Bingoboy first off i have to say those pic are gorgous.. lol.. and to RETed....i dont know what to say... i must have struck a nerve cause you sound kinda ****.... im only making my point because all yall that own turbo models talk alot of **** because you have a motor that came with a stock turbo, and you uppgrade it, i own an 88 convertible, a car that even long ago was ahead of its time, to me its all about verts, I drive around even today and people dont believe its an 88, i would never purchase the tII because to me theres nothing like putting the top down at high speeds, your ever just removing the targa, you cant do that with a tII. With regards to the whole turbo thing, as i stated before with the right mods you can bolt a turbo onto any motor, They make superchargers for N/A's they make turbo kits for n/a's. And trust me i've seen it done before.

krazykoncepts

ya convertibles are great my buddy has a 90 convertible, girls love the car. I on the other hand have a 90 n/a. Wanted more power so i am considering going turbo now.

MPM

kidcaffeine - Did you know the 2nd gen car was only available in japan as a turbo car? Verts included. Thats why all the J-Spec motors are turbo, never an N/A. And why was it called the TII? Because there was a 1st gen version available also, but not in the states. So explain to us again why rotarys should only be all motor?

Howi

iTrader: (2)

dude, you're the one that sounded ****. you're the emotional one who used a bunch of senseless arguments (turbo timer... etc). perhaps got your *** whipped by too many T2, hence the source of your hatred towards turbo rotaries?

buddy, you got more attitude and talk more smack than T2 owners.

ok there....

howi

kidcaffeine

The last time i checked i dont recall living in JAPAN, and lastly, HOWI the only reason, im saying all this is because everytime someone posts with questions asking about doing light or heavy mods to their N/A all these tII owners come out the wordwork not to help but critize and finish their post with a "get rid of your n/a and get a tII, if i wanted to get a tII i would not bother to ask about doing mods to my n/a. Is that a lil clear now? I mean its not the hard to understand, people are here posting, not to be critized by other on what they own, you can say im trying to defend n/a's or what have you but, in this case it isnt right on their part

Bukwild

Kmags if you are going to put the time and money into a swap you might do better just to buy a t2 and sell your NA. Its alot easier and will be more reliable than a swap. Trust me on this.

MPM

Yes I know you don't live in JAPAN. Just trying to make a point that no matter how much you think that rotary's should be all-motor its not going to happen. If you want good reliable HP TII is a good option. You can have good HP with an N/A that might beat a few turbo cars but be prepared for a high strung engine that isin't easy to live with on a daily basis and not as reliable as you may want. Get ready to spend more money for all that extra HP on an N/A also.

RETed

You don't get it...

You beat on turbo owners cause of their attitude, when you're the one spewing the crap.

I got nothing against non-turbo FC owners.

I have a problem with non-turbo FC owners who deny reality and think their cars are god's gift to this world.

Get off your imaginary pedestal, cause dollar for dollar, the turbo FC is going to make more power than your non-turbo FC, period.  That's the fact and the reality of it all.

Hit a nerve?  Oh, you have no clue what you're talking about.  I laugh at all these ridiculous comments people like you make.  You think I make this some significant part of my life?  Get a clue - I'm on this forum for entertainment.


-Ted

GlennS

Wow, some of us got a lil upset. I am not sure about the original poster, but I was just curious about what a N/A Rx-7 would make at the rear wheels with some exhaust, intake, etc modifications, not starting a NA vs. TII pissing match....

I personally like opinions from all sides whether from NA owners or TII owners. Just seeking fact based info from whatever the source...


GlennS

kmags

Yeah, I started this thread a couple months ago to help me decide if I should go turbo or not. Thanks to information posted here I have chosen to do the turbo swap. I really feel that all this bickering is useless and not necessary. I don't recall any turbo members putting down any n/a members on this site. To me eveyone is very nice and respectful to each other, even people with neons. But as far as my point of making this thread goes, I have made my decision. Thank you all very much.

ps- my dad can beat up your dad

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

With a stand alone and all possible "bolt ons" 200 RWD HP is VERY possible!

t2greddyrx7

the turbo sounds better and less costly $$$$$$$$$$$

KNONFS

iTrader: (14)

Highly debatable....

On a turbo you have the:

Turbo
Manifold
Intercooler

Of course a turbo will be fater, there is no question about it!!

GlennS

I really like the NA RX-7s for their simplicity, but I have a friend who is a HKS dealer and a certified Turbo Tuning NUT!!! (Toyotas are his speciality - 1985 Supra making approx 400 RWHP, but barely detectably at idle...) So I am not sure which way to go. Time is on my side though...still 2 feet of snow around here!

Thanks for the advice guys!

No Way! My Dad is a Ninja, and he just finished Samurai training too... He's only 9 feet tall though.

GlennS

Icemark

I think the bickering has gone on long enough in this thread