Is the 16G Mits turbo upgrade bigger than the S4 Turbo?
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Originally posted by usmcjsy
You guys are right I am so sorry. Domestic V8s are slow my mistake. Supras and the such come and mop up the drag strip all the time. Oh well I currently don't have a domestic car anyway I have a TurboII. So I don't know why I am trying to defend the domestics. Possibly just for arguments sake. Anyhow my URL does not come up but please visit fasteststreetcars.com These cars are not gutted, not imported and are in in the high 7s. There is even an old station wagon in there pulling 10s LOL. As far as you engine size theory the Supras are a 3 liter the new Stangs are a 4.6L Supras and RX7s often run neck and neck and there again is difference of 1.7 liters. Yet nobody brings that up. Ya the RX7 is a rotary so what. That is a lame excuse I hear a lot. I always hear ya but thats a rotary. So what nobody is stopping any other manufacturer from building one. Just like nobody is stopping mitsubishi form building a V8. Nobody is stopping ford from building a AWD Mustang. Oh and bebesito you say the Supra is running 8s on a single turbo like that is downgrade from the twin setup. Sorry but I am sure that thing is freakin huge single. So what that Supra is still not the fastest street car. Please checkout Tampabay motorsports.com or the november 2003 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. There is 93 GT with a 410C.I N/A on the bottle running 8.5@167. It says in the article that this car often cruises the local streets and sports a legit license plate. That has NO TURBO...NO FORCED INDUCTION!!! It does have a power adder of 2 more cylinders than your Stupra and the blue bottle. Man imagine a car in the 8s without a turbo. Unbelivable. Even Mazdatrix drag car is running a ford 9" and C4 tranny LOL. But whatever you boys go play Fast and the Furious on the street and leave the real drag racing to the Domestic Muscle! Just think these Mustangs I have talked about so far are SOHC 16V engines. I cannot wait to start seeing the full potential of these new motors. So what do you all think of the new GT-40? Ya that cars sux to.
You guys are right I am so sorry. Domestic V8s are slow my mistake. Supras and the such come and mop up the drag strip all the time. Oh well I currently don't have a domestic car anyway I have a TurboII. So I don't know why I am trying to defend the domestics. Possibly just for arguments sake. Anyhow my URL does not come up but please visit fasteststreetcars.com These cars are not gutted, not imported and are in in the high 7s. There is even an old station wagon in there pulling 10s LOL. As far as you engine size theory the Supras are a 3 liter the new Stangs are a 4.6L Supras and RX7s often run neck and neck and there again is difference of 1.7 liters. Yet nobody brings that up. Ya the RX7 is a rotary so what. That is a lame excuse I hear a lot. I always hear ya but thats a rotary. So what nobody is stopping any other manufacturer from building one. Just like nobody is stopping mitsubishi form building a V8. Nobody is stopping ford from building a AWD Mustang. Oh and bebesito you say the Supra is running 8s on a single turbo like that is downgrade from the twin setup. Sorry but I am sure that thing is freakin huge single. So what that Supra is still not the fastest street car. Please checkout Tampabay motorsports.com or the november 2003 issue of Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords. There is 93 GT with a 410C.I N/A on the bottle running 8.5@167. It says in the article that this car often cruises the local streets and sports a legit license plate. That has NO TURBO...NO FORCED INDUCTION!!! It does have a power adder of 2 more cylinders than your Stupra and the blue bottle. Man imagine a car in the 8s without a turbo. Unbelivable. Even Mazdatrix drag car is running a ford 9" and C4 tranny LOL. But whatever you boys go play Fast and the Furious on the street and leave the real drag racing to the Domestic Muscle! Just think these Mustangs I have talked about so far are SOHC 16V engines. I cannot wait to start seeing the full potential of these new motors. So what do you all think of the new GT-40? Ya that cars sux to.
you can't compare piston engine turbos to rotary engine turbos because of the VE differences of the 2 engines. a 16G turbo is smaller than even a stock S4 turbo and the 16G is only efficient to 16PSI.
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VR4's weigh about 4000lbs, and just never seem to be as fast as they should be. Like I said, if the race was on the highway the RX7 had a GREAT advantage with weight and gearing. John Shepard doesn't seem to be having to much trouble dispatching Ari in his AWD either, neither of them usually run away with a race.
AWD is a hinderance after about 2nd gear, most FWD or RWD cars pushing over 400hp will have traction issues on street radials atleast till 2nd gear. RWD cars can cut 60's down into the 1.3 range BUT this take lots of suspension and chassis tuning, you arent gonna bolt slicks on your RWD car and start hitting sub 1.5sec short times, however bolt a set of 4 drag radials or even nice sticky radials on an AWD and you are there. And where you see the big difference in the sheer amount of traction, this is with NO burnout so the tires are still cold as compared to a RWD car who can heat them up before he goes.
Daniel
AWD is a hinderance after about 2nd gear, most FWD or RWD cars pushing over 400hp will have traction issues on street radials atleast till 2nd gear. RWD cars can cut 60's down into the 1.3 range BUT this take lots of suspension and chassis tuning, you arent gonna bolt slicks on your RWD car and start hitting sub 1.5sec short times, however bolt a set of 4 drag radials or even nice sticky radials on an AWD and you are there. And where you see the big difference in the sheer amount of traction, this is with NO burnout so the tires are still cold as compared to a RWD car who can heat them up before he goes.
Daniel
what does a VR4 have anything to do with this?
They aren't DSMs.
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