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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 11:30 AM
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dregg, i want to use the mech omp because i will still premix but only like 1/2 to gallon. i just dont want to be SOL if i go to fill up somewhere and they dont have 2 stroke.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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i used a block off plate and run pre-mix on mine , also used an s5 water pump housing . I have a full to4b set-up but i am currently running a stock s4 turbo . Im also using anrtek 1.7 ecu with 720 secondaries and its running great . if your planning on anything more than 280-300rwhp i'd go with a stand alone ecu . Im not so i didn't . oh yeah the oil cooler lines will bolt up but the rear one is gonna be taunt and stretched , ill advised . i made some ss braided lines with an fittings cost about $150 for all the parts and it fits perfect .
p.s. the cosmo tps will work with the s4 ecu if you wire it correctly .
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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Does any of you guys have a good set of 13b-re irons for sale front and back if possible thanks guys.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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Why would swap to the RE? Id spend the money on a rebuild being you already have a decent setup and everything fits. Freshen up what you have and port it while your at it

This is comming from a RE owner, givin the second chance i wouldnt have swapped this engine in.
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Old Mar 6, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Ditch the omp and premix. Easy money. I'm almost done with my T2-Re swap too. Congrats mehn!
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 12:48 AM
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Why would swap to the RE? Id spend the money on a rebuild being you already have a decent setup and everything fits. Freshen up what you have and port it while your at it

This is comming from a RE owner, givin the second chance i wouldnt have swapped this engine in.

my engine just got rebuilt 1500 miles ago landers did a rebuild plus turbo port. why wouldnt you have swapped though? the only reason i want to do it is because it is available and close to my house. (within 50 miles of my house).
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Rancid7
i used a block off plate and run pre-mix on mine , also used an s5 water pump housing . I have a full to4b set-up but i am currently running a stock s4 turbo . Im also using anrtek 1.7 ecu with 720 secondaries and its running great . if your planning on anything more than 280-300rwhp i'd go with a stand alone ecu . Im not so i didn't . oh yeah the oil cooler lines will bolt up but the rear one is gonna be taunt and stretched , ill advised . i made some ss braided lines with an fittings cost about $150 for all the parts and it fits perfect .
p.s. the cosmo tps will work with the s4 ecu if you wire it correctly .
Hi! Do you have a picture or schematic of the TPS wiring? I was woundering how i should solve that one

BTW, The reason i go for the RE is because of the better flowing intake, better irons(than s4), its rare and i got one just a few kilometers from my home :=)

EDIT: You must use the s4 frontcover to use a mechanical OMP (if you dont want a hell of custom work..)
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:44 AM
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You can install a S4 front cover, but the RE only has 2 oil injectors like the FD. So mating the 4 line OMP to the engine and the actuating rod to the TB, will take some custom work.

For the TPS wiring, if you are using the stock S4 turbo ECU, then you can only wire up the full range portion of the RE TPS. The ecu does not have the input for the narrow range.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueTII
For the TPS wiring, if you are using the stock S4 turbo ECU, then you can only wire up the full range portion of the RE TPS. The ecu does not have the input for the narrow range.
That should be backwards.
S4 uses the narrow-range.


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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
That should be backwards.
S4 uses the narrow-range.


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You are correct, my mistake, that should be reversed. That will teach me to type before coffee.
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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I got a LT8 Microtech ECU, guess its narrow range too?
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:33 AM
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wire it up just like it says in the back of the manual, it has a diagram for the cosmo TPS
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Old Mar 7, 2007 | 09:49 AM
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yet again to restate......why?

You already have a good motor, what is the point. its not like there is something drastically different between the two. You would spend all that time and money to be around the same HP. I mean I like the look of the UIM but thats about it.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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the diffrence between the motors that i can tell is bigger intake ports and thicker casting. both things are nice to have.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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any other opinions or stuff i should know before getting this shin dig started?
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:51 AM
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New fuellines, oil lines, (rails), engine mounts, clutch, fuelfilter, oilfilter, Engine management, overhaul kit, port tamplates, injectors, manifold and turbo.. Guess thats about everything i bhoughtt for the conversion.. Offcourse you dont need to change everything.. Also new vacuum lines and block off plates could be smart to buy..

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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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i have everything thats on that list except the oil lines and some block off playes for a re. and im nt going to rebuild it. im going to ship it off to kevin and have him do it for me along with some porting
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Old May 2, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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Then you should have almost everything you need.. I guess you know(havnt read the hole thread) but you need new cooler lines..
Great to see that more people are using the RE engine as a conversion.. I think its much easier than the REW and the inlet manifold is #)=¤(/)# good looking! hehe
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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hey just wnated to know if you figured out what you needed to do with the injectors? and how you made out with your conversion. im thinking of doing this now.
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Old Aug 17, 2007 | 09:53 PM
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can you get short blocks? 13b? I just need a new motor, I'm in georgia..
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Old Aug 25, 2007 | 02:42 AM
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what about gaskits? where would you get re manifold gaskits??
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Old Mar 31, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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I know bumping up an old thread.

But FC3S_nataku how did you get on ? Im doing it currently and looking for bits of advice as well. Any results so far ?

Alt atkins I think sells gaskets for the 13b-re (check on ebay)
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