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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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lol, he actually had the ***** to send me a PM asking for help with his car after trying to tell me "i bet ur car isnt running..."

well the car wasn't running til i tossed a rear iron and drove it 1200 miles round trip to sevenstock without even testing my work to be sure it would be ok, if i can't trust work on my own car i wouldn't be able to sleep at night when people coming to pick their cars up have to drive hundreds of miles back home.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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It also has a glass moonroof.
That roof is more rare than the 10th AE and most I have seen did not have the glass roof. Though mine does (now, after a long search and $400).
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:05 AM
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i have the glass roof on mine if the car does have the glass breakage sensors, where will they be located? thanks for that info, 1988 10th AE!
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Awwwwww, thanks. Nobodies ever been that nice to me before.













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P.S. 10thAE still = fat
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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what is the specific weight difference between the 10AE and the Turbo II? i thought they were both about 2900lbs.... at that, it could be only a small amount of poundage difference. i could be wrong, thats why i'm, kinda throwing this out there.
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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3050 lbs
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Old Nov 9, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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thats a decent difference. 150lbs is a bit for a car with weight specs of the 7. does the AE get its weight from the interior alone? i cant see where the 10AE and the TII are different in terms of weight other than the interior. unless the glass is heavier in the AE...

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:20 AM
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anyone know where the glass break sensors are located?
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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there are three 1 in each coat hook and one in the dome light/sunroof control panel. About 5/16 diameter (from memory so dont get all bendy people) looks like very fine wire mesh.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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what about suspension wise? i remember fixing my s5 and notice that the knuckle arm was a thick one piece where as the s4 was thin-er and was a 2 piece
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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The S4 has replaceable balljoints...
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by tinvestor
there are three 1 in each coat hook and one in the dome light/sunroof control panel. About 5/16 diameter (from memory so dont get all bendy people) looks like very fine wire mesh.
thats great to know!! i checked the owners manual and it made no mention of these. guess they didnt care to print it or it didnt make the print cut. as in all manauls it states that there may be changes without notice of publication.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Does anyone know how many were made with the glass roof.
Mine has one, so i assumed that all 10th AE did.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b
thats great to know!! i checked the owners manual and it made no mention of these. guess they didnt care to print it or it didnt make the print cut. as in all manauls it states that there may be changes without notice of publication.
their was a separate pamphlet for these.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 74MZDRX3
Does anyone know how many were made with the glass roof.
Mine has one, so i assumed that all 10th AE did.
To my knowledge no 10th AE came with a glass sunroof stock. They were normal metal one's just like the other 7's.

Originally Posted by tinvestor
It is likely that the one without was a clone. I have seen some VERY elaborate attempts to clone the 10th AE but I have never seen one with the corect VIN plate. In fact every clone I have seen did not have the glass break sensors.
Nope, they were both very real. I checked the paint codes to verify that both have the Crystal White paint code. That and the one without the glass break sensors came with the original owners manual that stated it's a 10th AE with the vin printed which I of course verified.

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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 74MZDRX3
Does anyone know how many were made with the glass roof.
Mine has one, so i assumed that all 10th AE did.
all had sun roofs, the glass moon roof was a dealer add on.
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Old Nov 10, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by snowball
their was a separate pamphlet for these.
damnit, i must have that pamphlet!
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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does anyone have a copy of that pamphlet? one that perhaps i can reference so that i can find one of my own.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mazdaverx713b
does anyone have a copy of that pamphlet? one that perhaps i can reference so that i can find one of my own.
I have one... what do you need from it?
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by My5ABaby
3050 lbs
actually the Mazda claimed weight was 2900 lbs only 50 lbs more than any other 88 Turbo

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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
I have one... what do you need from it?
well, i wanted copy of it....... but i would also like to know what it looks like and what it references so that when i may find i know what it is
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Icemark
actually the Mazda claimed weight was 2900 lbs only 50 lbs more than any other 88 Turbo
Eh, I failed to mention I meant wet. I actually got the number from one of your posts.

Originally Posted by Icemark
You forgot all the extras that the 10thAE came standard with...

Things like leather, headlight washers and pumps, extra plush carpet and interior Ultra Sonics for the alarm, and things like that.

All those extra things like badges, Headlight washer fluid, extra wiring, CD, Premium sound system add up to about 100 lbs heavier than the standard S4 Turbo. Because of this Road and Track Reported a wet 10th AE in their testing to be 3050 lb.

Now remember despite many people claims, the normal wet (full of gas/oil/fluids) S4 Turbo weighed right around 2960 (Road & Track and Motor Trend). The low 2800 number was for the original test of the S4 RX-7 GT, a model not even sold in the USA (and basicly a Sport with the Turbo Drive line, seats, and wheels).

And that base model weight of 2625 lb number was a fully wet (full of gas/oil/fluids) and road driven 86 GXL w/cloth interior that Motor Trend tested back in late '85. Intresting that the weight of a fully loaded wet (full of gas/oil/fluids) GXL when tested by Performance Car was 2651lbs.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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with all that said, remember that fluids weigh around 8lbs per gallon (water is 8.33, gas is less oil is more) So this means a full tank weighs as much as your girlfriend (OK maybe her ideal weight). Moral is dont put your car on a diet then fill your tank to race. A trick used around here is to have a switch that makes your guage read full so you can negotiate a better starting position.

A stock 10th AE has 24 lbs of washer fluid when full!! (1 gallon each: windshield, rear window, and headlight washer). Mine has 0 lbs of fluid and -15 lbs of hardware for washer wiper systems.
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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anyone have a pic of the theft system pamphlet that mark was talking about?
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Old Nov 14, 2006 | 07:25 AM
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Mark, do you have a pic of that security pamphlet?
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