Why not to buy Monza/Pacesetter
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Why not to buy Monza/Pacesetter
Because it sucks. That's why. Enough said, but I'll continue.
I bought that system a few years ago when I got rear ended. I wanted something that didn't sound like crap. No, I will never get a mega can muffler, they're just not cool. And they sound bad. The pacesetter sounded ok, but LOOK AT THIS CRAP!
See that retarded y-pipe. Let's examine this... A 2.25" single, flowing to 2 - 2" pipes. Now, if you know your physics, you'll understand that as cross-sectional area increases, velocity decreases. Boooooo.
So, after having this crap for years, and obviously dragging it numerous times because it never quite sat right, I'm going to fix it. Why? Because now I no longer have the original 13b in my convertible, but a 13bT! With a 3" downpipe, leading to 3" exhaust all the way back to the y. Where it splits off, 2" each works out perfectly. Actually, 2.125 would have been optimal, but let's be realistic here. I'm not about to ditch the entire thing for an 1/8th of an inch in diameter per side.
So, here's the initial mock up:
This should work....
I bought that system a few years ago when I got rear ended. I wanted something that didn't sound like crap. No, I will never get a mega can muffler, they're just not cool. And they sound bad. The pacesetter sounded ok, but LOOK AT THIS CRAP!
See that retarded y-pipe. Let's examine this... A 2.25" single, flowing to 2 - 2" pipes. Now, if you know your physics, you'll understand that as cross-sectional area increases, velocity decreases. Boooooo.
So, after having this crap for years, and obviously dragging it numerous times because it never quite sat right, I'm going to fix it. Why? Because now I no longer have the original 13b in my convertible, but a 13bT! With a 3" downpipe, leading to 3" exhaust all the way back to the y. Where it splits off, 2" each works out perfectly. Actually, 2.125 would have been optimal, but let's be realistic here. I'm not about to ditch the entire thing for an 1/8th of an inch in diameter per side.
So, here's the initial mock up:
This should work....
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i dont think pacesetter suck at all. going 2.25 single to duel 2 inches is actually pregtty solid ideal. plus they have a different sound, not ricey but not hotrod. overall i give them a good effort.
i actually went from pacesetter straight pipe to trust exhuast and noticed a lost of power. perharp the trust exhaust has pipe that is too big (going from 2.5 in single to 2.5 inche duel). and sounded much louder.
i actually went from pacesetter straight pipe to trust exhuast and noticed a lost of power. perharp the trust exhaust has pipe that is too big (going from 2.5 in single to 2.5 inche duel). and sounded much louder.
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What did you expect from the cheapest thing on the market? "Most high" end exhausts don't have proper merge collectors.
That exhaust looks fairly decent to have been on your car for years. I'm not sure why you think it is Pacesetter's fault that you are trying to make their NA exhaust work on a turbo car.
That exhaust looks fairly decent to have been on your car for years. I'm not sure why you think it is Pacesetter's fault that you are trying to make their NA exhaust work on a turbo car.
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Don't get me wrong. The exhaust sounded pretty good, and I love the 4 tipped look out the back. But even for a N/A car, it just doesn't do any good. The mufflers are nice, but other than that, I gotta fix this
And everyone does fart cans these days. Even if it sounds good, I think it still looks bad.
Anyways, I'm sure the collector I made will flow better than the hack job pacesetter did.
I don't have any pics of the inside of the pacesetter one, but it's pretty bad.
And everyone does fart cans these days. Even if it sounds good, I think it still looks bad.
Anyways, I'm sure the collector I made will flow better than the hack job pacesetter did.
I don't have any pics of the inside of the pacesetter one, but it's pretty bad.
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Listen to King Diamond.
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Agreed. I think that's why so many people knock drifting all the time, because now anything that involves losing traction in the rear is automatically 'ZOMFG DORIFTO!!1!' And that ******* Tokyo Drift movie didn't help at all (I still refuse to ever see it, to this day).
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Lots of rotors
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Is there much of a difference in just the headers, though? Like between RB/ pacesetter? I totally get how the catback's **** though...
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Agreed. I think that's why so many people knock drifting all the time, because now anything that involves losing traction in the rear is automatically 'ZOMFG DORIFTO!!1!' And that ******* Tokyo Drift movie didn't help at all (I still refuse to ever see it, to this day).
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and its ******* funny as hell watching the rice "drift" or as i should put it, FAIL.
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