justinpace

I know you do not wanna hear about NA owners opinions, but i am NA and have no turbo. I am 18, i knew what i wanted. A mazda rx-7. I never hacked up my first car a mazda 626. Since the day i got it i wanted to get rid of it. Since i was about 4 i wanted a mazda rx-7. My grandmother had one. When it came time for me to get what i always wanted i met some rotor heads in my local area. One which was an Ex American Le Mans racer. At the time i knew very little about the rx-7. He sat me down and pretty much tought and teaches me everything i do know. He said i want you to start out on an N/A. When the time comes for more power we will give it what it needs. (which the current plan of attack is a 6port turbo much like AaronCakes) So i went on a mission to find the cleanest NA i could find. Found a decent one in virgina drove 8 hours to see it. Was no good. Took another month to find the next one. Was in boston had 50,000 original miles, all oem, mint. Was not cheap. Now if you want to say that i did the wrong thing and should have went with a TII with the limited knowledge and lack of driving skills then i am sorry. The car will never be a TII and i know that. But at the end of the day it will be a mazda rx-7. Will have a better suspension, which when you start to change that and other parts on the car its really just a blank chassis waiting to get upgraded. Not all NA's converted to TII's are **** piles. Hell, i have seen TII's look like complete dick. Its not the car its the owner. Sorry if i come off as a jerk but no need to bash on peoples out looks for their cars.

Rob XX 7

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I dont think the cars will ever gain the value that people will pass off cars that were not born as TIIs as TIIs.

the parts needed to make a non tii car are out there, put them in and you have a TII, if you go to sell you call it a converted TII car.

Oh never mind- were waiting for JUST TII owners to chime in! I guess I own one of each so why not

93rx74lyfe

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You make some very good points but lets be realistic, have you seen a fantastic swapped car in person. I havent, the only FCs I see are NAs in horrid condition with a self proclaimed mechanic planning to turn them into high horse power street monsters. It always ends up the same, either they butcher the car even further and sell because of funding or they get it to run and go every where doing burn outs or chirping their BOV so every one around can say-

-Whats that noise?
*Oh, just another shitty RX-7
-You mean those cars that blow up all the time?
*Yep

93rx74lyfe

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There is nothing wrong from what you have stated. You sound like a pure rotor head and that is very commendable in my book. And by having the brains to start with a less powerful car until your ready shows me that you have common sense, I wish I could say that for most of the young FC drivers that purchase cars that are well above their skill level to control. If and when you plan to gain more power from your FC I wish you the best of luck and will be happy to see another FC tearing up the streets that isn't a piece of junk.

justinpace

Thanks, i understand where you are coming from, but to me it just seems you are more mad at the ricers doriftors who turn there cars into mis matched fenders and wide body kits that never get painted and mis matched wheels and huge grape fruit shooters and sound like somethings dragging on the ground, and a side ways hat sitting as low as possible and driving with one arm up and leaning back so all u see is half there head. Haha man those ones make me laugh, while we are at it lets remind people not to be hardcore fast and furious street racers and drive safely.

jdm_emperor

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this thread is full of haters

Rob XX 7

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whoa now, so people with stock TII swaps **** you off more then the piles of **** pail real TIIs out there?

Here is my swap, many have seen it, I think its pretty darn good, even has AC.

I assure that right down to the standalone sitting in the kickpanel that everything is done properly, full driveline swap, and now I have TII skirts to in the car as well, so I have built myself a better then factory TII convertible.

srfjay

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Well i have a "real t2" a 90 s5 black on black and i dont mind all the swaps because if it ever comes time to sell my car i can happily post what i have. My car will all ways be worth more then a same condition swapped car .so in the long run i am happy i have a real s5 t2 but if i had to i would do the swap just to have a car i can beat and not worry about crashing a more rare real t2. but these type of cars are for fun and no matter what you buy or do with with it if your not having fun, time to find something else to do.

93rx74lyfe

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^Even though it isn't a TII, nor would I call it one that is a very respectable car. Now if others would be as thorough as you have been in your swap, threads like this would not be necessary. But either way it looks like you have a great car on your hands, congrats.

Rob XX 7

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I doubt many TII owners went to the detail I went with my car, I replaced every single mount, and rebuilt everything in the rear end and the transmission, C's short shifter, the works.

only thing original on it is the factory fuel line from the tank

SouthSideSlider

i see this argument from both sides as i am an N/A RX-7 owner but I'm 180 in the volvo world with a 740TiC D/T Euro spec. now as much as having swaped cars peiced together may not me the greatest thing for our cars reputation its not going to change and all you can do is suck it up. most people in both the RX-7(secon gen atleast) and volvo worlds are not people who have alot of money to make there swap clean and nice and are only worryied about it running.

USS CJ

Who makes threads about this kind of crap?

god. rx7club sucks.

K!NCH

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The only thing that pisses me off is non-rotary swaps. American V8s are the worst, but if you put in an SR20, RB25 or 2JZ then it wouldn't be as bad.

Rob XX 7

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if its a clean car, regardless of motor or swap, im a fan.

you can have your original car held together with zip ties and duct tape- it dont impress me.

most diehard rotary guys when they see a clean v8 swap in person, and hear it and drive in it quickly change thier thinking.

aznpoopy

the only problem here is generalization.

you could have just said 'hack job' cars suck.

then everyone would agree, and nobody with a clean swapped car would get pissed off.

instead you said swapped cars suck. then you qualified it by narrowing that down to swapped cars with a hacked up swap job. next time just say what you really mean from the beginning.

Rob XX 7

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still a well sorted and clean NA car carries more respect then a **** pail TII.

R.O.D

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i've always been around the rotary engine from rx-3s to rx-8s, since i was a kid...
many... most of u have extremely clean *** cars, and i try, everyday of every week with the money i bust my *** for to get my **** box closer to u guys...
im sorry i dont have the funds to mkae my $1000 rx-7 i saved from the wrecking yard, look super nice over night.
but hearing things like this from some of the ppl i look up to, sometime really makes me regret joining the "brotherhood"..

my two cents...

JCurry

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not a well thought out thread in my opinion......to each their own is all i can say, as bad as people hate the little riced out civics and such as you talked about, the people that own them like them so there is nothing we can do about it,,,they will always be around lol, think of them as humor on wheels or something

JCurry

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oops ment to quote this...

stylEmon

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This family is as dysfunctional has it comes bro.

Boosted11

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They would only **** me off if the guy actually thinks its officially a t2. The accepted title is this car is a n/a with a t2 swap.

I have an 87 t2, and swapping the body interior to s5 soon but I will still say its a s5 body conversion.

You know whats even funnier then civics though. Cavaliers and sunfires. People think they're sooooo mad tight fast. Its ridiculous. I myself have a 97 sunfire as a dd winter beat, but people are always looking at me as an enthusiast with the pack but im like **** no I want no part of this bs.

R.O.D

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hahhhaha travis V, there like, and i swear to god 50 cavalier/sunfires, all either
Fart can/riced out or chollo-d or and im not kiddin u theres a kid with 4" hick pipes on it
pointing to bothe sides of the car

i almost crashed once rubber necking the hick piped sunfire, i couldnt believe my eyes

93rx74lyfe

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I think that in general swapped cars are just knock offs of the real thing in the end. I dont think Ill ever see the appeal of them, I mean if you want one that bad why not just wait and get the superior car to begin with. Most people that just swap in the motor want to think that they are getting the whole TII experience, but in reality they aren't. Their car isn't and never will be what they want it to be(an actual TII) and from every stand point they are handicapped by it weather it be desirability/authenticity/sales. I just don't understand any of the reasoning of not getting the "real" thing right from the start.

USS CJ

So putting in an lsX is dumb....

but putting in motors that are heavier and make way less power isnt?

You sound like a retard broooo

K!NCH

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An LSX is heavier than an RB? Then damn did nissan **** up.