Glass Machine

I dont get it ... sorry if this has been ask cuz I know it has.

Just for the swap how much would that be, Just for the stock 20b to be put in? If I went to a shop and said here is my FC and here is the 20b, make them one with each other. What would that take? It dont seem like it should be that much... but hey I dont know much but hey thats why am here.

Thanks for any of your time
Zane

ultimatejay

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All the custom fabrication, labor, ECM is what costs so much. If you were to do the work yourself you will save thousands.

hwnd

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what if he uses the auto transmission and ecu, wiring, etc... how much then? :-)

Evil Aviator

Pricing from a few years ago:
https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...3&postcount=43

Contact information if you want current pricing:

Pettit Racing
4650 Dyer Blvd
West Palm Beach, FL 33407
Special Orders & Sales: sales@pettitracing.com
Sales & Service: 561-844-2258
Mon.-Fri.: (9AM-5PM EST)
Sat.-Sun. & After-hours:
(Leave Message for Call Back)
Fax: 561-844-2553

PF Supercars
4995 Winchester Blvd
Frederick, Maryland 21703
Phone: 301.874.0611
Email: info@pfsupercars.com

RX7store
3492 Millikin Ct
Columbus, OH 43228
Sales: 614-771-8966
Service: 614-264-9588
FAX: 614-448-0271

... or what if he buys a blown 20B and runs it non-turbo?

... or what if he builds his own 3-rotor engine from 13B parts?

Too bad nobody ever asks questions like this.

Glass Machine

Thanks guys for your Help.

Hey Gordon all I was wanting to do was drop in the stock 20b with the twins and stock ECU. My thinking was people always say how hard it is to get it in... but once its in, I was thinking I can add to it over time as I feed the need for a little more HP.

Could I still use the old manual transmission? From what I have seen I should just go get a TII trans. But hell could you use a 6 sped form a RX8 (if wanted) would that fit too? Just was thinking of that cuz, some people had said that they where using renesis rotors in the 20bs... come to think of it I dont know why I went from trans to rotors lol.

Thank
Zane

carx7

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Hey Zane,

Not to be offensive, but really all of this stuff has been answer dozens of times here before and as others have hinted, it is all in the FAQ section. Specifically to your last post, you cannot use the stock ECU with the 20b since it has to have the Cosmo automatic transmission. That is stated in the FAQ. Yes, you can get a TII trans... but then you need an ECU... and you might want a fuel pump, and, and, and.

Please read the FAQ at the top of this section and if you still have questions at that time feel free to post back here.

Respectfully,

Chris

Evil Aviator

This topic was already covered by RETed's write-up:
https://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php...59&postcount=3

viperkiller7

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it really isn't hard to or that much money in parts..yes i know it depends on what you put in also its the markup on parts and the labor rate that drives the price up. i have done them personally. basically shops put a price on it and people will buy it...

bob13bt

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You know what they say....If you have to ask, you cant afford it

bob13bt

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Heres what NOT to do!!

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...light=mazsport

Poor sucker gave Mazsport nearly $39,000 to do a 20B swap on an RX8, and its still a basket case after 2 years!! And this was not a stock RX8, by far.

This is an extreme case of getting fucked HARD. The guy was ignorant/naive, and Scott is just the greediest blood-sucking **** Ive ever met!! Thank God they are out of business!

My point is, if you want something done right, do it yourself. Unless youre so ****** rich you dont know what to do with your money.

viperkiller7

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agreed bob..........

vincentrx7

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Chris,
Very well said! Informative yet respectful. It takes a little self disciple to keep from having a flaming response and you did a great job. Thanks for taking the high road. It makes the forum more enjoyable to read!

Respectful as well,
Bobby

Glass Machine

Hey guys I am sorry for asking somthing I knew was going to have been ask 1000 other times. I was just being lazy the other day and did not have the time to look it up, so I just ask it real fast.

Thank for be nice about it
Zane

rotary miata boy

The 20b will bolt up to the 13b tranny out of the rx7 right? Its the same bolt pattern?

mono4lamar

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Yes

Attila the Fun

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I didn't see anyone answer the question, so I'll try. When I asked, in 1998, Pettit wanted $35,000, and Mariah Motorsports wanted $36,000. I doubt that the prices have gone down in 15 years, but that gives you two, known prices to work with.

It takes "that much". My car was done by very competent people in a well-run shop, and it took them 9 months. If you can, you're better off to buy my car ($15,900) and start driving immediately.

thewird

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To give an idea to the clueless people. I'm currently at $21k in my build and this is doing EVERYTHING myself. That price is parts only with no labor for anything. Having said that, the car still hasn't fired up and I reused some of my old stuff back.

thewird

Mdessouki

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I though I could do a NA 20B swap for less than $17K (drivetrain cost only). I was wrong...

thewird

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I thought I could do a simple and reliable 700 rwhp 20b turbo track setup for 16-17k. I was absurdly wrong. $23k and counting (parts only, engine side). I think I might be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel though. I might be starting it next week in time for DGRR

thewird

t-von

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It can be done for cheaper than you think. I have what you have invested including full body kit wheels and tires. The secrect is NOT buying all the expensive fabricated parts out their. If you fab everything (subframe, exhaust, intake, rebuild ect), as I did you will save a ton.

thewird

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Except not everyone is a fabricator with welding equipment. Though that isn't the biggest expense anyway.

thewird

t-von

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IronMdx did!

thewird

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I should have probably not said simple. Mine is actually quite complicated. Triple EGT's, exhaust manifold pressure sensor, electric water pump, custom v-mount, etc. I did get a lot of extra stuff hehe.

thewird

t-von

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True but I really wouldn't call myself a fabricator or welder. I orginally borrowed the mig welder to build my subframe. Then I got on ebay and bought one of those Plasma, stic, tig machines for 400.00 and began practicing. You gotta start somewhere if you on an extreme budget like I was. Plus all my cost are spread over the last 9 years. Now I know that sounds like a really long time. Most of that time is actual research and planning as I had to make sure I would be able to do the things with my setup like I wanted to. The actual conversion itself took me a year and half to get running. One thing I learned with these projects, you will spend more money than neccessary trying to rush it.

t-von

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Hey there's nothing wrong with doing things the right way for your power level.