SCAMMED by Mazsport.net Scott
10-24-08, 03:59 PM
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SCAMMED by Mazsport.net Scott
I chose my words carefully. I've been scammed by Scott @ Mazsport. It's been two years, and although some months may not be entirely accurate (it's been awhile), I included them so people can get the picture. Fact is, it was taking over 2years, and when I towed the car back, it wasn't even half done.
8/2006 - Scott began calling me up and telling me he's interested in doing 3 rotor swap on my car. He tells me it'll cost $25,000 - $30,000 with all bells & whistles (dry sump, roll cage, turbo, 20b, pushing the engine back & low, etc. etc.). and tells me it will take about 2 MONTHS. I agreed, then paid $10,000 down to "lock down my spot".
9/2006 - I drove the car down to FL and dropped my car off.
10/2006 - I call for an update. They say they're really swamped developing turbo kits & getting ready for some rotary meet. I asked them to send me some photos of what they have for my 3 rotor. Scott is now apparently TOO BUSY to talk to me on the phone for 5 seconds.
11/2006 - I'm now calling probably every 2-3 days and at least once a week because I haven't seen / heard any update for my car. I did talk to Scott once or twice this entire month--he then told me he's building a kick-*** engine with 13b housings & new rotors & new e-shaft.
12/2006 - Scott finally calls me and tells me he needs more money ($15,000) and gives me a deadline date - February/2006. He tells me engine is built and he spent all the money. He then proceeds to tell me to delete some mildly negative comments I've made on my thread about his dragging his ***-- I deleted them.
2/2007 - Scott says engine placement is like a midengine slotcar. Asks me another month to finish the job then asked for $2000 more to make an intake manifold. I pay the $2000 then bought my plane ticket for 3/2006 to tampa, FL to go pick up the car.
3/2007 - The entire week before my flight, Scott is unreachable. Betsey tells me the car's not ready. I scrap my flying plans. Scott then sends me some photos of the engine in the engine bay pretending like nothing happened. It was still snowing in PA and I told myself, I can wait until it stops snowing. Scott asks for more money at this point, and I said we're over budget already, and just finish it.
** at this point, only the engine was in the engine bay--
5/2007 - Scott says manifold took forever, but things are moving along. I request for another deadline, and he says 7/2006, and I buy another plane ticket. He then promises to keep me updated at least once a week, which he does so for ONE week then promptly forgot every single Friday thereafter.
7/2007 - Still not done-- in the meanwhile, I receive some photos of oil pan and turbo to keep me quiet on the forum. He also e-mails me that he'll work on it everyday and will have an update or me every Friday again and again--which never came true.
**at this point, I'm getting pissed off every week with Scott's lack of communication and utter lack of any respect for my time. Betsey would frequently tell me Scott will call after 5pm, makes me wait around until 7-8pm after which I figure out again and again he's not calling.
And this weekly routine continues until his name on the forum is in jeopardy with some posts. He then calls and gives me some fluke deadline, which he denies later on the phone telling me that he NEVER gives a deadline because he doesn't want to disappoint his customers when the date is not kept. I'm thinking this guy is an idiot if he wants me to buy that "argument".
12/2007 - I tell him to just make the car run. I also tell him I don't give a **** what he does to it as long as it runs. He tells me he needs more money and I tell him he's already over budget and asked for an INVOICE to see where the money went. Scott NEVER gives me an invoice--in fact according to him, there has been so much work done on my car that for the past 8 months, he's been working on my invoice.
5/2008 - I started up some thread on the forum, and Scott immediately lies to me that my exhaust pipe is finished. Asked me to delete the thread, which I did.
8/2008 - I ask for update, and for 10 months, Scott tells me he's been working on the fuel rail because the upper manifold is too low. I demand an invoice and told him I'd like to tow the car back.
9/2008 - Invoice is still not ready. When the truck driver called to confirm the pick-up, Scott tells him to come back later. I payed re-schedule fee, then demanded that Scott have my car on the truckbed next time truck shows up.
** at the vehicle delivery, I find that my car has been ripped up inside and out. Scott sold LOT of my OEM stuff and ALL my aftermarket engine stuff. Engine mounts weren't even in. Fuel modules, all sensors, fans, coolers, etc. etc. I had are all gone. There's NOTHING after the downpipe which is hitting the subframe incidentally. I call him up immediately and tell him I'll be starting up a thread about this transaction. Scott then immediately tells me that he'll make it right.
10/2008 - Every week, I get the same bullshit from him. First package had shifter **** and a BROKEN fuel pump. I finally receive that invoice he's been working on for past 10 months.
hey and here's what I received (these include the labor):
$800 for PREPARING the car for installs
$7922.83 for MOUNTS & PPF
$12,300 for 20b
$250 for radiator MOUNT
$867.61 for FUEL RAIL (doesn't even have secondary rail)
$850 for USED Rx7 tranny (not rebuilt) with NO shifter & no gear selector linkage
$981.54 for INJECTORS
$1950.91 for "performance clutch"
$3404.28 for INTAKE TUBES!
$2185.26 for EXHAUST MANIFOLD
$3200.80 for Gt42R turbo & v-clamps
$804.00 for OIL PAN
and here's the best part:
$1445.00 for THINKING about some exotic traction control that wasn't even installed or fab'd.
$450 for REMOVING my OWN fuel tank & working fuel pump that I needed (NO replacement in the car)
$675.00 for roll cage design & dynamat that aren't even in the car
then they decided to generously credit me for all aftermarket stuff that they sold off the car (after taking off 30% for their ebay listing service) and applied ALL the credit toward Scott's paycheck WITHOUT my permission. I still haven't heard anything about missing OEM parts or my aftermarket stuff I can still use with 20b.
I'm still waiting for Scott to send me my RX8 oem parts, 20b oem parts, and stuff he charged me for already like the shifter linkage, mounts, etc, which I still don't have. He's dragging it again.
SCOTT, EXACTLY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BOX UP SOME STUFF I WAS ALREADY CHARGED FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS AGO AND SEND IT VIA UPS GROUND??? According to him, he's still "unpacking" and still "looking for my stuff". I just had it with his lies and two faced responses on the forum. He tries so hard to appear legitimate on the forum, but many others (myself included) have had horrendous experiences with Mazsport Scott. He will keep giving you excuses of "doing it right takes time" to which I agree to certain extent. But over 1yr for turbo installs and over 2yrs for hacked up uncompleted project that was promised to be done in 2months is pushing it greatly.
Pics of EVERYTHING I received after paying Mazsport $38122.23 ON TOP of Fully tuned greddy turbo 300whp RX8 after Mazsport had it for TWO years.
8/2006 - Scott began calling me up and telling me he's interested in doing 3 rotor swap on my car. He tells me it'll cost $25,000 - $30,000 with all bells & whistles (dry sump, roll cage, turbo, 20b, pushing the engine back & low, etc. etc.). and tells me it will take about 2 MONTHS. I agreed, then paid $10,000 down to "lock down my spot".
9/2006 - I drove the car down to FL and dropped my car off.
10/2006 - I call for an update. They say they're really swamped developing turbo kits & getting ready for some rotary meet. I asked them to send me some photos of what they have for my 3 rotor. Scott is now apparently TOO BUSY to talk to me on the phone for 5 seconds.
11/2006 - I'm now calling probably every 2-3 days and at least once a week because I haven't seen / heard any update for my car. I did talk to Scott once or twice this entire month--he then told me he's building a kick-*** engine with 13b housings & new rotors & new e-shaft.
12/2006 - Scott finally calls me and tells me he needs more money ($15,000) and gives me a deadline date - February/2006. He tells me engine is built and he spent all the money. He then proceeds to tell me to delete some mildly negative comments I've made on my thread about his dragging his ***-- I deleted them.
2/2007 - Scott says engine placement is like a midengine slotcar. Asks me another month to finish the job then asked for $2000 more to make an intake manifold. I pay the $2000 then bought my plane ticket for 3/2006 to tampa, FL to go pick up the car.
3/2007 - The entire week before my flight, Scott is unreachable. Betsey tells me the car's not ready. I scrap my flying plans. Scott then sends me some photos of the engine in the engine bay pretending like nothing happened. It was still snowing in PA and I told myself, I can wait until it stops snowing. Scott asks for more money at this point, and I said we're over budget already, and just finish it.
** at this point, only the engine was in the engine bay--
5/2007 - Scott says manifold took forever, but things are moving along. I request for another deadline, and he says 7/2006, and I buy another plane ticket. He then promises to keep me updated at least once a week, which he does so for ONE week then promptly forgot every single Friday thereafter.
7/2007 - Still not done-- in the meanwhile, I receive some photos of oil pan and turbo to keep me quiet on the forum. He also e-mails me that he'll work on it everyday and will have an update or me every Friday again and again--which never came true.
**at this point, I'm getting pissed off every week with Scott's lack of communication and utter lack of any respect for my time. Betsey would frequently tell me Scott will call after 5pm, makes me wait around until 7-8pm after which I figure out again and again he's not calling.
And this weekly routine continues until his name on the forum is in jeopardy with some posts. He then calls and gives me some fluke deadline, which he denies later on the phone telling me that he NEVER gives a deadline because he doesn't want to disappoint his customers when the date is not kept. I'm thinking this guy is an idiot if he wants me to buy that "argument".
12/2007 - I tell him to just make the car run. I also tell him I don't give a **** what he does to it as long as it runs. He tells me he needs more money and I tell him he's already over budget and asked for an INVOICE to see where the money went. Scott NEVER gives me an invoice--in fact according to him, there has been so much work done on my car that for the past 8 months, he's been working on my invoice.
5/2008 - I started up some thread on the forum, and Scott immediately lies to me that my exhaust pipe is finished. Asked me to delete the thread, which I did.
8/2008 - I ask for update, and for 10 months, Scott tells me he's been working on the fuel rail because the upper manifold is too low. I demand an invoice and told him I'd like to tow the car back.
9/2008 - Invoice is still not ready. When the truck driver called to confirm the pick-up, Scott tells him to come back later. I payed re-schedule fee, then demanded that Scott have my car on the truckbed next time truck shows up.
** at the vehicle delivery, I find that my car has been ripped up inside and out. Scott sold LOT of my OEM stuff and ALL my aftermarket engine stuff. Engine mounts weren't even in. Fuel modules, all sensors, fans, coolers, etc. etc. I had are all gone. There's NOTHING after the downpipe which is hitting the subframe incidentally. I call him up immediately and tell him I'll be starting up a thread about this transaction. Scott then immediately tells me that he'll make it right.
10/2008 - Every week, I get the same bullshit from him. First package had shifter **** and a BROKEN fuel pump. I finally receive that invoice he's been working on for past 10 months.
hey and here's what I received (these include the labor):
$800 for PREPARING the car for installs
$7922.83 for MOUNTS & PPF
$12,300 for 20b
$250 for radiator MOUNT
$867.61 for FUEL RAIL (doesn't even have secondary rail)
$850 for USED Rx7 tranny (not rebuilt) with NO shifter & no gear selector linkage
$981.54 for INJECTORS
$1950.91 for "performance clutch"
$3404.28 for INTAKE TUBES!
$2185.26 for EXHAUST MANIFOLD
$3200.80 for Gt42R turbo & v-clamps
$804.00 for OIL PAN
and here's the best part:
$1445.00 for THINKING about some exotic traction control that wasn't even installed or fab'd.
$450 for REMOVING my OWN fuel tank & working fuel pump that I needed (NO replacement in the car)
$675.00 for roll cage design & dynamat that aren't even in the car
then they decided to generously credit me for all aftermarket stuff that they sold off the car (after taking off 30% for their ebay listing service) and applied ALL the credit toward Scott's paycheck WITHOUT my permission. I still haven't heard anything about missing OEM parts or my aftermarket stuff I can still use with 20b.
I'm still waiting for Scott to send me my RX8 oem parts, 20b oem parts, and stuff he charged me for already like the shifter linkage, mounts, etc, which I still don't have. He's dragging it again.
SCOTT, EXACTLY HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO BOX UP SOME STUFF I WAS ALREADY CHARGED FOR MORE THAN 2 YEARS AGO AND SEND IT VIA UPS GROUND??? According to him, he's still "unpacking" and still "looking for my stuff". I just had it with his lies and two faced responses on the forum. He tries so hard to appear legitimate on the forum, but many others (myself included) have had horrendous experiences with Mazsport Scott. He will keep giving you excuses of "doing it right takes time" to which I agree to certain extent. But over 1yr for turbo installs and over 2yrs for hacked up uncompleted project that was promised to be done in 2months is pushing it greatly.
Pics of EVERYTHING I received after paying Mazsport $38122.23 ON TOP of Fully tuned greddy turbo 300whp RX8 after Mazsport had it for TWO years.
10-24-08, 05:35 PM
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Wow, another 20B owner screwed. Take it from me, a guy who has been hosed for 4 years with his 20B project, this is all too common. I actually lost more money than you have. It sucks bad and I feel for you. There are a lot of guys that will tell you they can do 20B conversions and only a few that actually can. It really is criminal and I do think you should hire an attorney but the question is, if you win, does Scott have any money to pay you back?
PM me with your telephone number and we'll share stories. I also have a few recommendations as to shops that seem to be good. Best of luck.
PM me with your telephone number and we'll share stories. I also have a few recommendations as to shops that seem to be good. Best of luck.
10-24-08, 06:41 PM
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Edit to my above post: You should press criminal charges as well as civil. I think it is legally criminal what has happened. But hey, I'm not a lawyer, I just play one on TV
Finally, crispeed would be on of those I would recommend to save your project.
Finally, crispeed would be on of those I would recommend to save your project.
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10-27-08, 08:36 AM
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Wow Scott Glassburn been running a shady business for a long time now. His shop is only down the road like 3 miles from house. Scott is s crook. He is the only person on the face on the earth that can check port size with his little finger in the leading plug holes..Yes I seen him do it!!
I have seen several of his builds that cost thousands, covered in grease, leaking, missing bolts and such. He does a super crappy job.
I had my good freind get some oil cooler lines made from SS, got the car back and found the wastegate control disconnected. He is a slick one. I have talked to several others and they tell what they paid for from Scott, I tell them I don't see the parts on there yet..He seems to take advantage of the less informed.
Take your car to Cameron Worth @ Pettit..He builds the best 3 rotors anywhere.
I have seen several of his builds that cost thousands, covered in grease, leaking, missing bolts and such. He does a super crappy job.
I had my good freind get some oil cooler lines made from SS, got the car back and found the wastegate control disconnected. He is a slick one. I have talked to several others and they tell what they paid for from Scott, I tell them I don't see the parts on there yet..He seems to take advantage of the less informed.
Take your car to Cameron Worth @ Pettit..He builds the best 3 rotors anywhere.
10-28-08, 09:39 AM
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yea this is bs.. get a lawyer.
The last times i tried to even get a question answered they asked for a credit card number because " on phone diag is $80/hr." .. i was like wtf? its just a question.
Then after that they charged me an hour and a half for a compression test that took them 20 min..
He also has rediculous wait times for a car to get anything done.. An engine rebuild will take 8 months because he has a 30 car waiting list.. yea right.
The last times i tried to even get a question answered they asked for a credit card number because " on phone diag is $80/hr." .. i was like wtf? its just a question.
Then after that they charged me an hour and a half for a compression test that took them 20 min..
He also has rediculous wait times for a car to get anything done.. An engine rebuild will take 8 months because he has a 30 car waiting list.. yea right.
10-28-08, 10:40 AM
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Ugh, so sorry to hear this. I had been following your build periodically on the RX8 forum and in the 20B section whenever you posted. Funny thing about all this 20B stuff is that it's really not that complicated or hard; obviously in your case the mounting is slightly problematic in the RX8, but I had a 13B-RE in my RX8 relatively easily and a 20B in my FC too. $38k is just out of this world insane!
Obviously it's time to get a lawyer. Even if the guy doesn't have cash hopefully he has some assets you can recover
Obviously it's time to get a lawyer. Even if the guy doesn't have cash hopefully he has some assets you can recover
10-28-08, 02:06 PM
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Scott has a nice FC Turbo pushing over 400 hp..take that car and his dyno...and don't forget about his shop. Its the only Mazda shop in the county. Clean him out!
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Ive refrained from really commenting on my experience with mazsport and I hoped it was a fluke and just a bad experience for me but after spending almost probably more then 10k at his shop to (single turbo/tune/fixing) my car hasn't ran anywhere near how it should since a few days after he gave me my car back (6 months for a single turbo setup) and hasn't been driveable in over 6 months. After running out of time, money, and patience I had no choice but to give up on getting my FD running properly and dealing with the mess mazsport left me Im glad to see others stepping up on their bad experience at mazsport and especially glad to see him go out of business..