OneBadRx7

Alright guys I did a search in the 3rd gen section and didnt see that this has been posted yet, if it has I apologize but I am sure there are some people out there that havent seen it yet. Here is the link:

http://www.eliseusa.com/rotary.htm

DeLorean with a 6speed Porsche tranny and suspension from Elise, very interesting.

OneBadRx7

OK, after searching a little further I see this has been posted before in the lounge so my apologies for bringing it back up, if a moderator wants to delete this feel free, sorry.

Johnsrx7

Sweet, I have never seen that before.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Don't apologize Steve-o, this is a great post my man .

I tend to stay out of the Lounge, so this is the first I've seen of it. Pretty badass.....

OneBadRx7

Cool, glad I was able to show it to ya Rich, thanks.

RX-Heven

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It is a repost but I enjoyed checking it out again

Herblenny

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O.k... that is awesome.. WOW.. i did not know you could put 911 trans on to it.. Pretty sweet..

SPOautos

So wait, let me get this straight....a 1995 911 6 speed will work with a 20b???

So does that mean it would also bolt up to a 13B??? Is there a difference in the end housing that makes the transmissions not swapable between 20b and 13b???

My guess is that it would work on a 13b cause the stock FD trans fits up to a 20b so why would the 911 trans not fit up to a 13b???

Also, does anyone know what had to be done if anything to make it bolt to the engine? Did they have to make adapters or did it just bolt up???

Anyone know,
STEPHEN

j9fd3s

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i know theres a vw bug -->rotary engine adaptor, makes me wonder if the 911 is the same bolt pattern as a bug?

mike

RX-Heven

iTrader: (1)

Thats what we use on Star Mazdas. I'll ask our main tranny guy tommorrow about the 911 tranny.

Herblenny

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That would be nice.. I'm not sure how much nicer the 911 tranny would be.. but good to know that there are more options available.. i'm going to aske the Delorean people also..

PHIL

SPOautos

Would anyone happen to know how much power that trans can take? I know there are turbo Porsches out there making 750hp but I dont know if they do it on the stock trans, course the turbo cars might have a different trans

STEPHEN

Jeff20B

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Stock Porche and VW trannies can be beefed up with custom or stock gear sets.

Herblenny

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O.k. guys.. here is the info you been dying to know.. ok. maybe not dying to know.. but I have contacted the seller of the unique DeLorean 20B..

This is what he wrote me:

"The engine is a 1990 Mazda Eunos Cosmo 1.962 liter 3-rotor rotary wankel
(20b). The transmission is a 6-speed manual with a limited slip
differential from a 1995 Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (993).

There is a company named KENNEDY ENGINEERING (www.kennedyeng.com) that
makes custom parts and adaptor plates to mate engines and
transmissions. They do a lot of work with the porsche transaxle, and
happened to know the (bolt) layout of the 20b.

They made me an adaptor plate (to mount the transmission to the engine) and
made a custom flywheel. It uses a porsche starter, clutch slave cylinder,
and pressure plate.

The trans, engine, and bolt up kit alone cost about $13000.

Jim"

So, I guess you would need a adaptor.. It would be very interesting to get one of these..

PHIL

Herblenny

iTrader: (13)

I think they used the 911 trans because the mid engine location.. but I might be wrong on this.

PHIL

Jeff20B

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I think you're right.

SPOautos

Yea, wasnt thinking about how the DeLorean and Porsche are mid/rear engine cars.

Thanks for the info man,
STEPHEN

Herblenny

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This is what I recieved asking about the rear enging thing..

The Delorean is REAR engined, just like the porsche 911. the transmission
is a transaxle, coming off the FRONT of the engine. The setup is almost
exactly like a front engined front wheel drive car. The difference is that
the transaxle's ring & pinion (final drive) is flipped 180 degrees so that
it rotates the opposite direction (so that the car goes fast forward,
instead of really fast in reverse). Some transmissions allow the
ring&pinion to be flipped so that the transmission can be used in front and
rear engine applications. The porsche 911 is NOT one of
these transmissions.

Regardless, the 911 and stock delorean transmissions were transaxles,
meaning the axles runs through the transmission. This is not the case with
any of the RX7s, which were all front engine, rear wheel drive, and
therefore had a drive shaft and a rear differential/crankcase.

Other high power transmissions of this sort were used in the corvette and
high displacement Mercedes Benz (500, 600)

gohorns

The link above showed an adaptor for a T5 tranny. I know the high HP mustang guys use the Tremec TKO which bolts up and is good for 475 lb/ft Torque Capacity. For mustangs there is also the option of running the T-56 6speed. I wonder if a 20B could be mated with that using the adaptor?

Herblenny

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that might be possible..

Kurgan

Yes a T-56 is a very good choice for using a front engined 20b in a rearwheel drive car... um, like an RX7 I have a lot or research and numbers and measurments on the T56 at home, and if I remember correctly, the T56 is very close in length to the T2 tranny... but the shifter is not in the same location. With my rough mock ups, the shifter would be about 4-6" closer to the dash... which could be fixed with a custom shift lever...

Herblenny

iTrader: (13)

very interesting.. hmm.. how about for FD... is it about the same length as T2 tranny... and would T56 come closer to dash as well...