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Old 07-24-05, 08:58 PM
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Need a 20b FD.

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Can it be done?

$15k a running 20b swap.

I dont need anything fancy, just running and driving.

Has anyone done it for $15k?

YES I've SEARCHED!!!
Old 07-24-05, 09:19 PM
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Im trying to.
$4k for the motor
$1.5 for a stand alone
$1200 for interooler

Then you need dual fuel pumps, larger injectors, turbo, manifold, sub frame and bump steer correction. A flywheel, clutch that will hold it, and radaitor. Hosing, boost controller, mounts, and misc that I am forgetting. Exhaust too.
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Need a 20b FD.

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No need for a huge single. i can run stock twins untill i get more money for the gt42R
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Figure $6k for a FD chassis, with/without dead motor.

So yeah, you might be able to pull it off.
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Need a 20b FD.

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Originally Posted by The Spyder
Figure $6k for a FD chassis, with/without dead motor.

So yeah, you might be able to pull it off.
I got one for less than that.

Im talking $15k for the entire swap.
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If your good a making things, dont mind waiting to find some parts cheap/used- yes, yes I do think you can.
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If your good a making things, dont mind waiting to find some parts cheap/used- yes, yes I do think you can.
w000t

oo i cant wait
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teh list

I modified the list - here is what i have so far, what i'd do right off the bat during the motor install. Depending on your budget you might want to put off some of this and I know the 42R would be later but I included everything I can remember from our discussions.

Subframe, mount inserts, mounts, misc swap work. I'd port the stock upper and lower intake manifolds right off the bat along with a port and rebuild, its more Work then money and IMO that ~$1000 is well worth the work of going and pulling the motor before you go single.

Clutch and flywheel. Get something way overkill so again, you don't have to do it before single. It might kill the rear end but you can always go Kaaz or Quaife or whatever if the stock rear end goes before you single it, but thats something i def wouldnt spend $$$ on it now.

Pull the factory radio and run some CD player (el cheapo if you desire) and then stick gauges in the lower DIN slot, replace some of the factory gauges in the cluster, and others on the A-Pillar - i'd get gauges in this order: oil press, wideband 02 (that has two outputs so you can use your sensor for outputting to a gauge and also to your standalone), oil temp, coolant temp, and if you want it EGT+others). I know AEM's had a dual channel wideband for soemtime and I think Innovative's new one is even better from whati've heard. I know for the rest you wanted the Defi link system which I think is a great choice.

Standalone (dont know what one you want) and a good electronic boost controller. It would be nice to have one that can do gear-depenent limits and scramble boost with good adjusts like the newer GReddy one.

Radiator and new hoses, intercooler, battery + relocation, new fuel pumps and lines, FPR, rail, injector, oil metering pump mod with a cell for 2 stroke oil and lines for that, fuel filter, oil filter, downpipe and midpipe fabbed up, bunch of blockoff plates and various materials like vacuum line, assembly lube (or just vaseline), and a bit of money in fluids and cleaners... [/QUOTE]

Im going to turn this into a Word document so we have something to base off cause i have a feeling i'll be doing all the electrical work w000000t

PS. Rims and tires. Lots of tires.

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Originally Posted by SamuraiSam
I modified the list - here is what i have so far, what i'd do right off the bat during the motor install. Depending on your budget you might want to put off some of this and I know the 42R would be later but I included everything I can remember from our discussions.

Subframe, mount inserts, mounts, misc swap work. I'd port the stock upper and lower intake manifolds right off the bat along with a port and rebuild, its more Work then money and IMO that ~$1000 is well worth the work of going and pulling the motor before you go single.

Clutch and flywheel. Get something way overkill so again, you don't have to do it before single. It might kill the rear end but you can always go Kaaz or Quaife or whatever if the stock rear end goes before you single it, but thats something i def wouldnt spend $$$ on it now.

Pull the factory radio and run some CD player (el cheapo if you desire) and then stick gauges in the lower DIN slot, replace some of the factory gauges in the cluster, and others on the A-Pillar - i'd get gauges in this order: oil press, wideband 02 (that has two outputs so you can use your sensor for outputting to a gauge and also to your standalone), oil temp, coolant temp, and if you want it EGT+others). I know AEM's had a dual channel wideband for soemtime and I think Innovative's new one is even better from whati've heard. I know for the rest you wanted the Defi link system which I think is a great choice.

Radiator and new hoses, intercooler, battery + relocation, new fuel pumps and lines, FPR, rail, injector, oil metering pump mod with a cell for 2 stroke oil and lines for that.
Im going to turn this into a Word document so we have something to base off cause i have a feeling i'll be doing all the electrical work w000000t[/QUOTE]

Ooooo Sammy i wish u were still up here, I'd love to have you help me with this monster project.

Shes going to be a beast!
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Dude just do it when you move down here lol 2 mos.
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Dude just do it when you move down here lol 2 mos.
Roar get car in 6 days!!
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Does Electromotive TEC III work on a 20B? Never looked into it for a rotary app but my tuner loves that system.
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A TEC III works great on a 20B. My friend has his FC 20B running on one now and I'm about to have my 20B FD running on it in about 2 weeks.
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Cool! thanks for the info. I like the intergrated sensors/ignition system that the TEC III has.
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Originally Posted by The Spyder
Im trying to.
$4k for the motor
$1.5 for a stand alone
$1200 for interooler

Then you need dual fuel pumps, larger injectors, turbo, manifold, sub frame and bump steer correction. A flywheel, clutch that will hold it, and radaitor. Hosing, boost controller, mounts, and misc that I am forgetting. Exhaust too.
Engine was closer to $4.7k (entire front clip w/auto tranny) with shipping;
$1.5k stand alone;
$250 for intercooler (on FC) don't know why it would be so much more for FD;
$250 for radiator;
$800 to $1500 for front subframe
$7500 for non-salvage titled FD
$350 for y-pipe
$350 for aluminum flywheel;
$450 for Stage 3 clutch kit;
$150 for battery (optima) and cables;
$175 for 2 fuel pumps;
$200 engine mounts;
$100 fan;
?$ exhausts
?$ drive shaft
?$ misc paint, wire, connectors, belts, filter, hoses
?$ turbo (can run a grand or two or three);
add at least 50% because it's the first one you've done and murphy's law still applies;

add cost of health insurance when you smash fingers;
add cost of mental therapist when you go nuts;
add cost of divorce lawyer if you are currently married;
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Originally Posted by hoofhearted
Engine was closer to $4.7k (entire front clip w/auto tranny) with shipping;
$1.5k stand alone;
$250 for intercooler (on FC) don't know why it would be so much more for FD;
$250 for radiator;
$800 to $1500 for front subframe
$7500 for non-salvage titled FD
$350 for y-pipe
$350 for aluminum flywheel;
$450 for Stage 3 clutch kit;
$150 for battery (optima) and cables;
$175 for 2 fuel pumps;
$200 engine mounts;
$100 fan;
?$ exhausts
?$ drive shaft
?$ misc paint, wire, connectors, belts, filter, hoses
?$ turbo (can run a grand or two or three);
add at least 50% because it's the first one you've done and murphy's law still applies;

add cost of health insurance when you smash fingers;
add cost of mental therapist when you go nuts;
add cost of divorce lawyer if you are currently married;
Let me see if this work from information I just got if you are planning to use the stock twins. Any one let me know if I'm wrong.
Engine was closer to $4.7k (entire front clip w/auto tranny) with shipping=I can pick up the motor with harness for 4k
$1.5k stand alone;
$250 for intercooler (on FC) don't know why it would be so much more for FD;= I got told that I can use my current FMIC
$250 for radiator= same I can use my Fluidyne
$800 to $1500 for front subframe
$7500 for non-salvage titled FD=got the car
$350 for y-pipe= using stock turbos
$350 for aluminum flywheel
$450 for Stage 3 clutch kit= use the one on my car, SPEC 4 puck
$150 for battery (optima) and cables= done
$175 for 2 fuel pumps= using 2 pump is acutually necesary?
$200 engine mounts;
$100 fan= use FD fans
exhausts= other than a DP
drive shaft
misc paint, wire, connectors, belts, filter, hoses

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bring it to texas im just about done with my fd 20b swap so i can start on yours.
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hey I heard that the stock twins that come with the 20b are crap. Know a guy who put a 20b in a FC and he blew the stock twins in like a week. also 1sgen how much do you charge to help drop a 20b into a FD? Do you know how to port motors also? email me with info really intrested resuperg795@hotmail.com




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