If you were to install the motor without stopping for breaks, what would be the install time, roughly? Silly question, I know. And if it's impossible to install in one sitting, other estimates work for me too.

Basically, I ask this because I'm tired of guessing on some of the things in my novel. I'm doing more research this time through, and rewriting it to be much more believable. The main character is a car-whiz. I usually implement things from forums and what not to the story. Anyways, any help would be appreciated.

Also, final question while I'm thinking about it. Is there a 6-speed that bolts up to the 20B when dropping into an FD? Thanks again.

-Don

 

My 20B was no more difficult to install than a 13B. By install, I mean actually mating it to the bellhousing and motor mounts. My project is a bit different though.

 

So, what, somewhere in the 3-6 hour range, including ECU wiring and what not.

 

took me some time to do the install but i was making parts as i went
like the motor mounts etc. after that it took me longer to put in the ic
and pipes that the motor install.

matt

 

HKS makes a DOGG Mission that is 6 speed for the FD and FC...

If your talking about putting a 20B in a car that has a 13B in it and needs to be totally modified for it to fit It will take you a good 40-120 hrs of work to make and modify everything to make it all fit depending on how and what your are doing.. If you go to Nopistons.com and hit up the 20B forum and look for the Dragon is making much progress thread I made a year ago detailing my install it may help you out..

chris

 

Also priced around $8,000 USD...

20B isn't that much harder to install than a 13B in an FC, if you run the aftermarket engine mounts.
About 1-2 hours max to get the engine mounted in the engine bay.

4 - 6 hours on a Haltech install.

1 - 2 hours on the radiator install.

Add another 20 hours for miscellaneous stuff...

So far we've gotten about 10 hours of tuning on the Haltech.
It runs almost flawless except with an occasional ignition hiccup.
It gets over 15mpg easily on the street.
It's docile enough to be a daily driver.



-Ted

 

ahh...hoshi HK$ dogg mission!! suki!! HK$ ichi-bahn des

 

also for refrence to make the mission a 6 speed HKS had to make the gears a little thinner to fit everything in side. This made them weaker and they will break on Hi HP/Tork cars...

 

why use the HKS tranny, why not go for a nice 6spd hewland transmission or trans axle to make the balance more 50/50 and give yourself the ability to change gearing and everything, as well as give you the power to mount your engine to the rear, if that is what you so desire, and keep the shifter in the stock mounting hole. Alot of fab work, though

if you are interested, the trans axle I found is at http://www.hewland.com/svga/productrange/sl.htm

Hewland can also custom fab up tranny's for any and all applications. If I am not mistaken, they made the trans for the 787B, but I don't know for sure.

 

1) The car already has a 50/50 static weight distribution (or close to it) without spending 2000 man-hours and lots of money mounting the engine in the rear with a transaxle in a configuration that is not legal in nearly every race class on the planet.
2) Did you happen to see the price on that transaxle you listed?
3) I believe the 787 used a Porsche 5-speed.

 

1) I am saying that the car with the 20b is not perfect 50/50, being that there is the weight of the extra rotor in the front end. Also, WHY WOULD YOU MOUNT THE ENGINE IN THE REAR OF THE CAR??? I am suggesting a torque tube to the input shaft on the trans axle.
2) I did see the price, and I suggested it becuase a 20b conversion like this should NOT be conducted on a budget.
3) And your point is...? The 787B was a rear-engine rear-drive car. You're comparing apples and oranges. Besides, porsches tranny's are weak, being that porsches are over priced and under powered.

 

BA HA HA HA

Ok.. Umm WTF are you smoking??? Check around.. the cars keep VERY close to 50-50.. like 49-51 OR 50-50 Depending on who installs the engine.

Not only that.. Do you have ANY idea the fabrication required to back halve a RX-7 to install a TRANSAXLE???? Let alone install the rear suspension with the correct geometry!?!?!?

And everyone has a budget... at some point you have to draw the line... and spending 37K on a TRANSAXLE... not including th fabrication of the tube chassis to carry it correctly.. and the half shafts.. and brakes.. and shocks.. etc.etc.etc.etc... You are prolly looking at 50K MINIMUM, to get JUST the transaxle installed!!

Then you still need a engine and all the associated hardware for it!!!

That would be a 100K+ project EASY...

For that money you could buy a Used IMSA RX-7 and put lights on it and make it street legal!!!

IF I am not mistaken.. the guy wants a 6-speed in the correct location in the car... not in the back!

(OK going back to the movie... still laughing.)

 

You are assuming that every other part of the car remains stock, which it doesn't. Also, using lighter components such as stainless steel, and relocating the battery can work wonders. It all depends on how the car is built.

So how exactly was anybody supposed to infer a torque tube setup from your quote of "as well as give you the power to mount your engine to the rear"?

Even Penske has a budget. There is a certain point at which the cost and difficulty do not warrant the work, especially when better options offer similar performance.

My point is... You are the one who brought up the 787B. Just scroll up to your post, and you can read it plain as day, lol.

Anyway, here is a link to the 787B with the "weak" Porsche/Mazda gearbox:
http://www.nightracer.com/787.html

 

Okay, so I am retarded, sorry about that, I forgot that I mentioned the 787B, so I must apologize for that comment. As for the porsche tranny, I still stand by my comment about them being weak being that porsches are over priced and under powered

 

Wow, geez, thanks guys, lol. Looks I have to go back and rewrite the beginning.. -_-. BUT! Again, I have to express my thanks, because if I had left it be at half a day, and the novel ever took off, I would gotten my head chewed off by more knowledgeable people than myself. So, thanks.