well here it is http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
think he can get what he's asking? i'd hope that this car would be able put down more than 400HP with a single turbo!! for 400 HP you might as well stay w/ a 13b! i hope i end up making more than 400HP after my project is done.... boy will i feel bad if i spend all this money to just ruin the handling!

 

the red 3 rotor alamo car runs the stock injectors, so 380-400hp is about as much as they will do

 

no this is the black one with upgraded injectors and a t-78.

"new 3rd gen. rotor housings, and new side housings, 3mm apex seals, ported and polished, extra dowel pins for additional strength, aluminum flywheel with ACT clutch, 900cc primary inj., 1200cc secondary inj., 20B fuel pump, XS fuel pressure regulator, RC Engineering big bore throttle body, T78 turbo with .96 A/R, Turbonetics Racegate, Turbo XS dual stage boost controller, Greddy turbo timer, 3 in stainless down pipe, high flow resonator, and limited edition Racing Beat muffler with 5 in tip"

i cant understand why this car is putting down so little HP? the 100% stock motor and ECU should EASILY put down 300HP. he claims it SHOULD be able to put down 500HP @ 14psi.... i dont know... someting sounds off, is it just me?

 

hmm ok then they can make more

 

"384 rwhp and 324 ft. lbs. of torque at 5600 rpm at only 8 psi"

I don't think a 13b could make those numbers very easily. You could always turn up the boost and he is also running a fairly small a/r ratio....96

All kinds of 3 rotor projects for sale lately. If only I didn't have so much invested in my so far I'd just buy one of them.

 

^same here! im in oakland.... tell me about your 20b project... i have most of the stuff for mine.... just need time to get it going! -heath

 

Thats Tito Ramos car. He's the guy that built Derrick's 20b (Rxman720b) which is the red car he mentioned in the ebay add. That is an excellent price considering all the stuff you get. Lets see............ stock 93 would range from about 13k-15k. That means you would get all the mods (20b install,suspension wheels & tires included w/ single turbo set-up)for only 23k. Damn that makes me wanna buy it.

 

ivan made 387 with his fd, @17+psi on the stock twins

 

I'm sure he did, but at 17 psi. Same number from a 20b @ 6 psi.

 

yup, the 6psi motor will run forever, ivans will pop on the way to the track

 

I've seen this car in person, and ive heard the car also... must i say it is a very nice car, and it's description doesnt even do it's justice. Its even more perfect up close. Sounds really really good too :0

Justin

 

It was a neat car, but not as nice as I would expect it. When I rode in it, the tach didn't work above 5k rpms, and it was just "thrown" together in the interior.

The accessories and engine placement work seemed nice though.

 

I looked at it back in its stock twins days with the same asking price (go figure). the tack thing bothered me too with the 40K price tag.

IMO the car is not tuned properly (at least back then) which is why it only runs 8psi to keep it safe. Who ever buys this car should take it to Pettit or RP for a healty tune and maybe even throw in a Haltec

 

ive seen the red one 2 years in a row at sevenstock and i agree 100% with that.

 

Don't spout off on someone else's ride without knowing all the facts.

Are making these comments knowing the course that Tito and Derrick took late last year on Microtech systems. Did you think they didn't learn anything and that is why one should go to Pettit? If your response is, "I didn't know they took a course", I suggest you retract your statement as you obviously don't have all the facts.

Tito did the single conversion on my 20b FD and it was similar to Derrick's ride except I have a Q-trim. When I picked it up, the car was tuned to run very safe which dosen't mean something is wrong with the car.

I think Tito did a great job and don't question his tuning abilities. Here is a pic of my ride after Tito did the conversion.

 

so how many more HP are you putting down now that you went w/ a single?? pettit makes 550HP on the stock twins and from what i hear the car is relativly reliable/streetable -heath

 

Cam was an integral part of my 20b conversion and I have nothing but respect for him...who told you the turbos are stock as if you talk to Cam, he will tell you they have been worked on.

As far as horsepower goes, the 550 hp you quote for Cam's Banzi package is at the flywheel...I make more than that at the rear wheels.

I am not flaming anyone in particular but please do your homework before throwing around numbers.

 

I am curious then on to you answering his question.

What Horsepower / boost do does your car make? Did Tito dyno it before delivery? What RPM, etc?

 

i talked to someone at pettit about there 20b's after getting all the info to order my subframe. they told me that minor work is done to the turbos (a little machining to smooth out some curves in the manifold and i think they mentioned a ceramic coating but dont quote me on that). i was told that no mechanical mods were dont to the turbos to my surprise... i specifically asked about this because of a few people having problems w/ the stockers running out of volume at high rpm..... thats why ive been talking to the people @ BNR and considering the stage 3 upgrades. anyway, i believe they said that they were running boost at 12-13psi... so i assumed the extra HP was due to their tuning and engine porting.

 

we just pulled a set of stockers apart and they are teeny, the stock fc turbo dwarfs it.

 

Hmm.... T-78 with a .96 turbine housing?? Garrett or Mitsu?

 

see thats what i dont understand....WTF is pettit doing that makes these turbos do anything at all at that HP? im thinking about reconsidering the whole "ill just stick w/ the twins and have BNR do them" thing..... any suggestions? (hey by the way.... how did they compare to a set of FD twins? i keep getting different stories on what compressors they use on hte 20b)

 

the big one is a little bigger than fd, and the small one is an fd. we're thinking about putting the fc wheels in the big side, as it only needs to be bored out to work

 

i think thats similar to what bnr does right? but pettit? im not sure i heard them mention anything like that.... they mentioned "smoothing out" some of the bends or something????? i cant remember exactly as it was a good while ago... i seem to think it was in regards to a 90 degree bend???? sorry about the sketchy details..... anyway, its a cast manifold so smoothing out the casting and doing a ceramic coating would help w/ flow etc... i need to talk to bnr and see if part of their mods include smoothing out all that casting.... i think sending it to be ceramic coated would be a good idea although has anyone heard of that stuff ever flaking off before cause that would be bad. -heath