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Old 05-03-05, 11:24 AM
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build up looks amazing! If you don't use that 20b would you consider selling it, and if so how much?

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Not for now. I plan on building it as a spare after test fitting is finished!
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Ordered large hunk of aluminum today. Cost $700. 15" diameter and 8" long.

should be a couple of weeks at the most before my billet trans spacer is finished and the motor is back in the car with the new Tremec TKO 5-speed! Will post pics if i could get back into my server...NEEED TO GET HELP

Any one have a suggestion on mounting the ford 8.8 IRS? Solid or Rubber mounts?
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Honestly you might want to direct that question to Jimlab. He might be an honest help(i.e. he might be able to tell you which will suit your goals better). Good luck.
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if by solid you mean using rod ends vs. bushings, that's going to depend on how much street use this'll see and how much maintenance work you to do. the rod ends will need a lot more upkeep, so it depends on how much wear and tear they'll get and how often you want to replace them. if you want a smoother ride w/ less maintenance go w/ bushings, if you want a racier suspension go w/ rod ends.
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I am talking about the mounting of the differential, not the suspension...
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What a beautiful MONSTER! Can't wait to see the finished project. Great work.
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Yo...Auto Illusions, I am interested in one of your SS 3 rotor exhaust flanges.. Can you please email a pic of it to me and the specs on it? I know you have explained everything about it in this thread but its too long for me to search thru. I want to see pics of it and want to know which type of ss it is made of...304?? 321?? Also is it a CNC , Laser cut, water jet??? How thick is it??? What is the total price shipped with tracking to 90250?? Do you accept a Confirmed shipping address paypal payment?? Waiting for your response
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Originally Posted by Auto Illusions
I am talking about the mounting of the differential, not the suspension...
Want me to save you the trouble of having to make one?
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Want me to save you the trouble of having to make one?
The only thing i am conserned with in your sub frame is the tube bent rearward of the diff. I don't think it would fit up against my custom aluminum fuel tank which i am not ready to re-make.

I am still considering and will be letting you know.

I am very interested in a real head light kit though, hurry it up!

Want an origanil RE sleek light kit for trade?

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Originally Posted by Auto Illusions
The only thing i am conserned with in your sub frame is the tube bent rearward of the diff. I don't think it would fit up against my custom aluminum fuel tank which i am not ready to re-make.
I know. We talked about that, and I can make you a rear "bracket" for the subframe and another for the differential and let you connect the two in any matter you wish to clear the tank.

I am very interested in a real head light kit though, hurry it up!
I'm working on it.

Want an original RE sleek light kit for trade?
Nope, had one in 1998.
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im just hating because i cant afford noting you got there..
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Well, finally working on the car again. Planning on having it running in 3-4 months!
The new subframe is in, motor, custom trans spacer, Tremec tko liberty trans and 8.8 ford diff are all mounted up and fitting nice. I ordered stainless for new header and exhaust, a carbon fiber drive shaft (ouch), driveshaft shop axles and a tilton carbon carbon twin disc clutch. Next is the Motec m800, radiator, oil coolers and air to water intercooler setup to finish the purchasing part of the project!

I am working on mounting up the steering rack tonight.

I really wish i could post some new pictures i have. My web designer is a smuck and left me high and dry with my password no longer working to access my picture storage from my web space and can't post pics right now. (any help would be appreciated!)
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hmm, are you claiming all these expenses? I think you are, maybe I should get a business liciense and build a "no expense" project!
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Here is a picture of the transmission with custom input shaft to keep the shifter in the stock location and to allow room for the twin disc clutch and hydraulic style throw out bearing.


One of the billet trans spacer


And one of the transmission installed in the car.
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Here is a quick peek of the 8.8 ford diff custom mount.
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Here is a look at the final design of exhaust flange which fits perfect if anyone needs one!

A picture of what I see when looking out the rear view mirror!

Picture of shifter in stock location. (perfect match)

shot of the spare motor to be used for the rest of the mach up fabricating to come

Me trying out the shifter and anxious to get the project on the road! (I barely fit even with a sparco buckes seat installed, lowered 2+ inches and slid inward 1.5")
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I might be interested in the exhaust flange. how much??
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what kinda 1/4 time you looking for? you car wont e able to qaulify for any class, but maye run the back half cars... Nice car tho looks great, im going to be building a 20b fd for pro street tires. minus the rear you have...lol beefy im going to keep stock...
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Originally Posted by herblenny
I might be interested in the exhaust flange. how much??
Sold out at the time. I am going to try to get 10 more made if it will help out others but initially i was selling them for what it cost me because i only bought 10 of them to get the cost down and help out a few 20b fabricators. If i am going to take the risk and shell out almost $1400 i will be selling them for around $150 each. Make a wopping $15 for the hassle!

Any one interested should pm me so i can keep track of the interest to order another batch.

I also have a couple of the 1st and 2nd run 3/8" stainless flanges left as shown as the top two flanges in the picture above. $100 each!
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Originally Posted by T88Rx7
what kinda 1/4 time you looking for? you car wont e able to qaulify for any class, but maye run the back half cars... Nice car tho looks great, im going to be building a 20b fd for pro street tires. minus the rear you have...lol beefy im going to keep stock...
If i can't get the car into the 9's with some slicks, i wasted a lot of money as 2-rotors are getting into the 10's with a lot less mods. I am sure traction will be the only problem! Maybe i will just try to have enough speed for liftoff at the end of the 1/4 mile. Maybe even fast enough to need a Parachute? That would be cool on a street car.
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pics of steering rack

I worked on mounting the steering rack to my custom subrame last night.

The rack mounts in perfectly but the photos don't do much justice.

Check out the rectangle tubes with welded in recess for steering rack bushings and 5/8" tubing inserted and welded in to keep the tubing from crushing when tightening!

The entire subframe and plate is all made up of chromoly and tig welded!

You will also notice the front tube in the subframe houses a hollow tube sway bar. WAY COOL and i am sure this is an original idea that has not been done yet but will probably be copied.

It solves the weak sway bar mount problem and stiffens up the whole subframe by picking up an extra mounting point.

I will be working on the bump steer issue, i have a chasis builder friend that has a bumpsteer tool of some sort. I havn't seen it yet but they use them on race cars when mounting steering racks and suspension components from scratch!
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Had the pleasure of visiting the car in person for the first time in a few months. The pictures in these posts do not demonstrate the quality of Rich's fabrication skills. This project should be an inspiration to everyone on the forum -- a do it yourself project taken to the highest level. I'm ready to trade in my wrenches and have Rich build my next car.... for those who know me, that's a heavy comment! Keep the updates coming with lots of pictures!
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Thanks george. Coming from someone with your experience, i take that as a great compliment. I hope you subscribed to the thread and keep in touch. You are the man!
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Wow, I just went through this whole thing, very cool. Can't wait until this is done!
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Did you engineer the sway bar as an integraded part of the custom fabed sub-frame or does the sway bar pass through it (like a hollow tube)?

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