I've done business w/CP racing before, and it did take forever to receive the part.

If I was behind on some orders and someone called me on it. I might be tempted to say I just received the order, myself

Manntis is missed, but it's his decision to stay away, and there's nothing we can do about that.

Me, I just never visit the lounge or DoO areas, you're just asking for a fight there...

 

You're right there. I stay away there aswell. Nothing intresting going on anyway

But it seems really hard to find decent info on certain shops. The last few weeks I've read all sorts of stuff about CP racing, Rotorhead.ca, Rotaryshack,...
There are always some who say they have vry bad experiences, and some who say everything is great. Unfortunatly, the positive reactions all too often come from people who are involved in these business themself...
This way it's extremely hard for the normal Seven fan to judge.

 

Its not like he cheap shotted some guy from behind and broke his neck........
<--- that was ****** crazy.. I cant believe bertuzzi did that.

on track again.. manntis seemed to be a great guy, I read the arguments he was in, in the lounge, and I am sure that he can overcome it and come back

 

I'll drop it because of flame reasons, but this car is ultra cool WITH the v8!

 

Well MosesX605....


I talked to Cp racing about the order. he waited weeks before placing the order. Simple fact.

Why don't you tell that to 7aull who has had a Prepair order in for three months.

No excuse for that. That's TOO long.

If he can't get his suppliers to make the stuff, he should not sell it.

Let us know when and IF you get your order 7aull.

 

I'd say because you received the model car AND a valid tracking number for the items days before you stopped payment through your credit card company, that the matter was resolved - to your great benifit.

Did it take longer than usual for your part to go out? Yes. Were you right to be angry? Absolutely. But I apoligized for the problem, and dealt with it. Furthermore I responded promptly to every email you sent, forwarded info from the supplier, even gave you their contact info so you could do your 'little research'.

Meanwhile I'm out of pocket the $150 you reversed after you received one item and the tracking number for the other.

 

Ok, just a friendly warning to all. Dont erupt this into a flame war. Manntis has a good rep here and if theres a problem lets resolve it peacefully. Stu was asking about his stuff, and he's a good guy. Can you adress his problem please Manntis? TIA.

PS-I dont mind leaving this in the public view as this is where it started and Id like to see it peacefully resolved that way. So all parties are happy and issues are fixed.

 

will do

edit: My email has been reactivated. Those of you with questions, comments, or concerns are more than welcome to email me directly, as I don't visit this forum as often anymore.

 

Manntis, it's good to see you post again.

I hope that despite the fact that you've had some almost unbearable things happen in the past year, that you'll continue to post here.

Best of luck in everything, I hope it all turns out well.
Jon

 

I do not know Manntis personally but I bought a leather gearshift boot from his company based on his reputation and assistance to newcomers like myself (new to the board 2 yrs. ago but 9 yr. SE owner) that he provides. He has good FB ideas and advice. I do not know his political views and do not care. I bet that with his being Canadian and also from the US left coast that I would differ on many political issues with him, but I did not join this forum to talk politics or hang out in lounges. My order was delayed a few weeks, so I contacted Manntis by PM and he shipped another order at his cost for the lost in delivery order. I would order from him again. Launch the Save Manntis effort and block the attackers. As one Southern politician once said, "You are a credit to your community".

 

D'arcy!
Good to see you again!
I've missed ya bud!

How's Pam's sister doing?
Get all the stuff trasfered from Pam over yet?

You should come hang out with us in the Canadian forum again! No flame wars there...

 

Manntis, is this true? You bought another -SE?

That's awesome. I thought one of the reasons you weren't hanging out here was because you no longer had a 7. Glad to hear you have anoter -SE. There must be at least *some* parts on Pam that are usable. Maybe the RB muffler or headers survived intact... I know the main pipe was warped major.

Yeah, and there are no flame wars in here either. I'd actually say we're nicer than the Canadian forum, which is pretty damn hard considering how nice we Canadians have a reputation for being

Jon

 

I dealt with them before, I ordered a stereo plate. He informed me they were out of stock and refunded the money no problem.

 

That is completly incorrect Manntis.

You had not even bothered to order the part I ordered from CP.

When I sent you emails asking for my part you told me they had been shipped and they had not. You were blaming it on the post office when you have not even made the order.

If you want to discuss it further send me a pm.

 

Right, that's why you were emailed a valid tracking #.
That's why the courier confirms you've received the CP part. That's why you received the model car back in December, and STILL reversed your entire payment - that's fraud, BTW.

Then post libelous statements in here and have the nerve to play victim.

quit while you have your parts and money.

 

I know nothing about Manntis on a personal or business level. What I do know is that he is one of the reasons that I continued to come to this forum for help when I first got my Rx7. He and some others were kind enough to help me out, and lead me in the right direction to solve my problems. They did not attack my intelligence. They did not constantly tell me to USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION. Which, by the way, is usually more of a pain in the *** than it's worth unless you already know the thread you're looking for.

Long story short, Manntis has always appeared genuine, and to my knowledge, limited as that may be, has only once pointed anyone in the wrong direction with his advise given here. I do recall one time that someone did reply to his advise with a correction. His response to that was to immediately appologize for the incorrect information, and aknowledge his mistake. That speeks pretty highly of his character to me.

Business is business. This forum is not a part of that. Sure there is some advertising that goes on here, both for members and non members, but without knowing where to get the parts we need, how easy would it really be to do what we need to do to our cars.

The cars are the main focus here right? We are all here to try and fix, or upgrade our cars. Maybe Manntis screwed up. Fine. Maybe he didn't. Whatever. The point is this discussion, though it started here publicly, should never have really been resloved here. The resolution, if one is ever really acheived, could be posted here as a Vendor Comment. That makes perfect sense. But to attack an individual personally, on the forum, for his business practices that are VERY losely associated with the forum, is just in bad taste in my opinion.

Now I feel like I have to cover my *** for defending Manntis, because KehoeAutomotive did me a favor that I very much appreciate. He wrote me a letter to help support my court case. This is something that even my "local" rotary shop (Atkins) would not do. They didn't respond to the thread which is fine, maybe they never saw it. However, they didn't even respond to the request that I directly emailed to them. Am I going to attack them for it though? Hell no. They have a great reputation, and I have no reason to tarnish that. Maybe the email got lost, maybe they just didn't feel like they should get involved. Whatever the reason, they didn't respond, and I don't hold that against them. On the other hand, if I ever have the opportunity to do business with Kehoe, I will definately do so.

So Kehoe, I hope you don't take offense to this statement, because I really don't know what happened between the two of you. The only people that do know for sure are the two of you. For that reason I seriously think that we would all be better off if this thread had never been started. I think it would have been better for yourself and 7aull to have just posted in the Good Guy/Bad Guy section, that is after all what that section was set up for. There was really no reason for anyone to have seen any of this unless they were deliberately researching Rotorhead.ca as a potential vendor.

Brian

 

Well, of course you are mainly right there Brian.
But it's all a bit complicated. Somehow those people who are selling products to the first gen community are also part of that community. This makes for some very good products, as they do know what we need/want. But it also makes it very difficult to judge them correctly. I have no idea who's right in the discussion going on here, as we can never know the full story. So therefor I refuse to choose sides, but of course this is very confusing. What if a seller really does screw up? Wouldn't it be logic to tell the rest of us so we can be saved from having the same experience? On the other hand this might also mean some people will blame problems caused by third parties (couriers, shippers...) on the seller. Thing is: we will always here one side of the story.
Since I have not done any business at all with rotorhead.ca, I cannot, and will not judge them. I do know that Manntis is indeed one of the most active members on the forum, and that he is always helping people with advice. Which is the reason we have a forum in the first place.
There have been numerous threads where he explained something without saying use the search button (I agree that doesn't work anyway).
I'd prefer people solving there business problems outside of the forum, but of course it's also a bit logic that those things come up here. We cannot say that the forum doesn't bring him in touch with potential customers. Of course there's nothing wrong with that, but this does mean occassional problems (who ever is to blame for this) get enlarged to unfair proportions.

 

All I can say is take it with a grain of salt. I never let anyhting that happens in the net world mess with my life. If I want to be here Id come back here... Period. I homestly think he doesnt have the time to come back and post all the time.

 

I think the worst part about the whole thing for me is that it feels like I have two good friends of mine, who maybe don't know each other really well, at each others' throats here. Manntis has given me invaluable help via the knowledge he's given here, while KehoeAutomotive has given me invaluable help by way of writing that letter for me.

So I agree with you, rotary emotions, when you mention not picking sides. I guess that was kind of what I was getting at last night, though in a very long-winded and round-about sort of way. I just feel like I want to jump in and stop the brawl, and look at them both and tell them to just ****** forget it and either get along or move on. But at the same time, I feel like neither one of them is going to back down from the fight. So it's like when two friends are fighting and you have to choose which one to grab ahold of and drag away. Which one isn't going to resent you for it later? Or get their feelings hurt by it? In this case I don't know which I'd choose to drag away and let cool off, but my main point is that I don't think any of us should have been put in the postion to see this fight to begin with.

I do agree that having a message posted as a warning to other potential customers is a good idea. But, like I said, I think that the Good Guy/Bad Guy section is the place for that.

Brian

 

Hi everyone-
Stu Aull here. Wow. Bit of a firestorm about all this, but I thank everyone for the interest in this situation and have hopes of its positive outcome. Manntis says his rotorhead email is working so I am taking him at his word and I have emailed him, including the paypal payment information. The email is attached below. So the ball is now in Manntis's court and I will post the results, whatever they maybe.
Kind regards to all and especially MosesX605 for helping me directly.
Text of email:
"Hello-
I am Stuart Aull. I ordered a set of 2 "SavannaRX-7" badges from you on Dec.21st. Payment was made via Paypal, and I have forwarded that receipt.I have NOT received the badges, nor been able to contact you since. I posted this situation in the RX7 forum in hopes you might learn of my problem and reach out to me so we can solve this problem. I would prefer the badges, but would settle for a refund if they are not available. I don't mind waiting to get them, I just get spooked when no-one keep in contact about the status of an order. Please reply at your earliest convenience. I would love to post a happy ending to this on the forum!
Stu Aull
fellow Canuk, living in Alaska

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