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07-28-02, 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by 79+80_rx-7
IGNORANT??? WTH?
He is just sayin as to how the extra wieght IN FRONT OF THE ****** WHEELS.... handling will be shitty.... and brakes will be ALL up front instead of at the back......
OKAY PEANUT HEAD how many times do you have to read the same things over and over again??? Even though that 302 might not be heavier, the wieght is in front of the wheels... And yes the firewall has to be cut... so that the balance of the car isnt fucked up way too much... He got it from thinkin.... maybe you should try it... Piston driven RX-7's are bad things..... thats why they CAME WITH A ROTARY....
IGNORANT??? WTH?
He is just sayin as to how the extra wieght IN FRONT OF THE ****** WHEELS.... handling will be shitty.... and brakes will be ALL up front instead of at the back......
OKAY PEANUT HEAD how many times do you have to read the same things over and over again??? Even though that 302 might not be heavier, the wieght is in front of the wheels... And yes the firewall has to be cut... so that the balance of the car isnt fucked up way too much... He got it from thinkin.... maybe you should try it... Piston driven RX-7's are bad things..... thats why they CAME WITH A ROTARY....
http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~standard/DCP_2147.JPG
Yeah, look at ALL THAT WEIGHT in front of the tires
If you don't know what you are talking about, kindly be quiet.
Jesus, I guess ******* turbos, FMICs, big *** 3'' exhausts, and all the extra **** you need with a 13BT are made of ******* air! That way NO weight is added.
Sometimes I wish I'd never sold my Trans Am.....
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07-28-02, 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
And you have experience with this how??
http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~standard/DCP_2147.JPG
Yeah, look at ALL THAT WEIGHT in front of the tires
If you don't know what you are talking about, kindly be quiet.
Jesus, I guess ******* turbos, FMICs, big *** 3'' exhausts, and all the extra **** you need with a 13BT are made of ******* air! That way NO weight is added. Sometimes I wish I'd never sold my Trans Am.....
And you have experience with this how??
http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~standard/DCP_2147.JPG
Yeah, look at ALL THAT WEIGHT in front of the tires
If you don't know what you are talking about, kindly be quiet.
Jesus, I guess ******* turbos, FMICs, big *** 3'' exhausts, and all the extra **** you need with a 13BT are made of ******* air! That way NO weight is added.
Sometimes I wish I'd never sold my Trans Am.....
07-28-02, 10:07 AM
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You might as well give up, Winnepeg, you'll never convince them. Ghetto, I added ~200lbs to my car, weight distribution as 51.4%/48.6%, about the same as a GSL-SE. SE brakes handle it just fine.
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07-28-02, 10:25 AM
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I want to build one out of principle too. 
289 built to Hi-Po spec.
And then a bridgey 12A in another one.
Problem is, not sure which would would get to be the daily driver and which would be the weekend car
Felix if ya wanna haul the car up here I'll trade ya welding labor for the Weber setup
289 built to Hi-Po spec.And then a bridgey 12A in another one.
Problem is, not sure which would would get to be the daily driver and which would be the weekend car
Felix if ya wanna haul the car up here I'll trade ya welding labor for the Weber setup
07-28-02, 03:44 PM
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Update-
I went to the junkyard today and saw this 87 lincon M7.
It was in a crash but it was just from behind the whole front end is in perfect condition.
I just might buy the ford conversion kit from grannys(its only 200bux) and that whole car(the guy wants 300 for the engine and 150 for the whole thing)
I went to the junkyard today and saw this 87 lincon M7.
It was in a crash but it was just from behind the whole front end is in perfect condition.
I just might buy the ford conversion kit from grannys(its only 200bux) and that whole car(the guy wants 300 for the engine and 150 for the whole thing)
07-28-02, 04:10 PM
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Originally posted by ghetto-rx7
Ya but 302 would rape a stock or ported 12a with intake, exhast and a turbo if you through some weight over the back wheels
Ya but 302 would rape a stock or ported 12a with intake, exhast and a turbo if you through some weight over the back wheels
07-28-02, 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by REVHED
Take your hand off it ********. You build your 302 boat anchor and I'll build a Weber blow-through turbo 12A and we'll see what the outcome is. n/a is a different story.
Take your hand off it ********. You build your 302 boat anchor and I'll build a Weber blow-through turbo 12A and we'll see what the outcome is. n/a is a different story.
07-28-02, 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by 79+80_rx-7
IGNORANT??? WTH?
He is just sayin as to how the extra wieght IN FRONT OF THE ****** WHEELS.... handling will be shitty.... and brakes will be ALL up front instead of at the back......
OKAY PEANUT HEAD how many times do you have to read the same things over and over again??? Even though that 302 might not be heavier, the wieght is in front of the wheels... And yes the firewall has to be cut... so that the balance of the car isnt fucked up way too much... He got it from thinkin.... maybe you should try it... Piston driven RX-7's are bad things..... thats why they CAME WITH A ROTARY....
IGNORANT??? WTH?
He is just sayin as to how the extra wieght IN FRONT OF THE ****** WHEELS.... handling will be shitty.... and brakes will be ALL up front instead of at the back......
OKAY PEANUT HEAD how many times do you have to read the same things over and over again??? Even though that 302 might not be heavier, the wieght is in front of the wheels... And yes the firewall has to be cut... so that the balance of the car isnt fucked up way too much... He got it from thinkin.... maybe you should try it... Piston driven RX-7's are bad things..... thats why they CAME WITH A ROTARY....
IVE DONE THE ******* SWAP!! THATS MY CAR AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE!! YOU DONT KNOW **** I DIDNT CUT THE ******* FIREWALL!! IT HANDLES FINE AND BRAKES FINE!!! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU STUPID BASTARDS THAT CRY ABOUT A GODDAMN V8 RX-7.AFTER YOU DRIVE ONE THEN YOU CAN TALK!
07-28-02, 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by Winnipeg85GSL
IVE DONE THE ******* SWAP!! THATS MY CAR AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE!! YOU DONT KNOW **** I DIDNT CUT THE ******* FIREWALL!! IT HANDLES FINE AND BRAKES FINE!!! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU STUPID BASTARDS THAT CRY ABOUT A GODDAMN V8 RX-7.
AFTER YOU DRIVE ONE THEN YOU CAN TALK!
IVE DONE THE ******* SWAP!! THATS MY CAR AT THE TOP OF THE SECOND PAGE!! YOU DONT KNOW **** I DIDNT CUT THE ******* FIREWALL!! IT HANDLES FINE AND BRAKES FINE!!! I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF YOU STUPID BASTARDS THAT CRY ABOUT A GODDAMN V8 RX-7.AFTER YOU DRIVE ONE THEN YOU CAN TALK!
07-28-02, 06:38 PM
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I'm dropping in a ford 2.3turbo in my 85 GSL. It is a copy of the 2.3turbo that is in my 2900# mustang that runs 12.00's at 110-112 in the 1/4. I have the motor and trans in the car, the only problem I am having now is the front sit to damn high. Going to have to get some lowering springs for the front to get it to sit level. Those rotaries may look small, but they are darn heavy.
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Going to have to get some lowering springs for the front to get it to sit level. Those rotaries may look small, but they are darn heavy.Later
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07-28-02, 06:43 PM
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Originally posted by Eville140
Those rotaries may look small, but they are darn heavy.
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Those rotaries may look small, but they are darn heavy.
Later
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Does anyone know if a NorthStar V8 would fit in there?
I think they weigh less than a 12a.
07-28-02, 06:50 PM
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I guess no one realizes that a V8 carries the bulk of its weight lower than a rotary. If anything, it'd HELP the polar moment of inertia, or at least help offset the little bit of added weight.
Hm, Trick Flow heads are only a grand a pair. Again, anyone wanna buy some 12A running gear?
Hm, Trick Flow heads are only a grand a pair. Again, anyone wanna buy some 12A running gear?
07-28-02, 07:22 PM
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Originally posted by Felix Wankel
And you have experience with this how??
http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~standard/DCP_2147.JPG
Yeah, look at ALL THAT WEIGHT in front of the tires
If you don't know what you are talking about, kindly be quiet.
Jesus, I guess ******* turbos, FMICs, big *** 3'' exhausts, and all the extra **** you need with a 13BT are made of ******* air! That way NO weight is added. Sometimes I wish I'd never sold my Trans Am.....
And you have experience with this how??
http://www.pcs.mb.ca/~standard/DCP_2147.JPG
Yeah, look at ALL THAT WEIGHT in front of the tires
If you don't know what you are talking about, kindly be quiet.
Jesus, I guess ******* turbos, FMICs, big *** 3'' exhausts, and all the extra **** you need with a 13BT are made of ******* air! That way NO weight is added.
Sometimes I wish I'd never sold my Trans Am.....
Ok for everyones sake, my IC weighs 18 pounds, my new radiator weight 5 pounds more than the stocker. The t2 tranny weighs a shitload more than a 12A tranny (id say probally 30 pounds more) My 3" exhaust probally weighs in at a hefty 40 pounds muffler and all...
Just cause a rotary is small doesnt mean it isnt heavy. Its actually very heavy..
I honestly ebelive that with a 302/350 with aluminum heads and intake, will hardly be any difference. Actually I wish I could find where Derrick weighed Tom's 88 vert with a 400 in it... You'd be very suprised its not that much heavier, and its a LOT of fun to drive...
So if you dont know what your saying dont say anything
07-28-02, 07:23 PM
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Last chance here everyone. The namecalling stops here and now or the thread gets closed. I'm pretty disappointed, I thought we had come far enough that topics such as V8 swaps into 1gens could be discussed rationally. Guess I was wrong.
Here's a good rule of thumb. If you think the swap is a horrible idea, that's fine, but don't simply post here saying how stupid you feel a person is for wanting to do it. To each his own.
Here's a good rule of thumb. If you think the swap is a horrible idea, that's fine, but don't simply post here saying how stupid you feel a person is for wanting to do it. To each his own.
07-28-02, 07:47 PM
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Last chance here everyone. The namecalling stops here and now or the thread gets closed. I'm pretty disappointed, I thought we had come far enough that topics such as V8 swaps into 1gens could be discussed rationally. Guess I was wrong.
Here's a good rule of thumb. If you think the swap is a horrible idea, that's fine, but don't simply post here saying how stupid you feel a person is for wanting to do it. To each his own.
Last chance here everyone. The namecalling stops here and now or the thread gets closed. I'm pretty disappointed, I thought we had come far enough that topics such as V8 swaps into 1gens could be discussed rationally. Guess I was wrong.
Here's a good rule of thumb. If you think the swap is a horrible idea, that's fine, but don't simply post here saying how stupid you feel a person is for wanting to do it. To each his own.
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07-28-02, 07:55 PM
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Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
[B] Actually I wish I could find where Derrick weighed Tom's 88 vert with a 400 in it... You'd be very suprised its not that much heavier, and its a LOT of fun to drive...
[B]
[B] Actually I wish I could find where Derrick weighed Tom's 88 vert with a 400 in it... You'd be very suprised its not that much heavier, and its a LOT of fun to drive...
[B]
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=44799
07-28-02, 07:57 PM
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Ok so tell me this: Isn't most of the weight of a piston engine above the crankshaft? And on a rotary, isn't only half the weight above the eccentric shaft? The center of the two shafts needs to sit at aproximately the same height under the hood doesn't it? If so, then I'd say a V8 has more weight up higher in the engine bay than a rotary (if the tranny and driveshaft are at the same level as a stock Mazda). Am I missing something here?
07-28-02, 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by Jeff20B
Ok so tell me this: Isn't most of the weight of a piston engine above the crankshaft? And on a rotary, isn't only half the weight above the eccentric shaft? The center of the two shafts needs to sit at aproximately the same height under the hood doesn't it? If so, then I'd say a V8 has more weight up higher in the engine bay than a rotary (if the tranny and driveshaft are at the same level as a stock Mazda). Am I missing something here?
Ok so tell me this: Isn't most of the weight of a piston engine above the crankshaft? And on a rotary, isn't only half the weight above the eccentric shaft? The center of the two shafts needs to sit at aproximately the same height under the hood doesn't it? If so, then I'd say a V8 has more weight up higher in the engine bay than a rotary (if the tranny and driveshaft are at the same level as a stock Mazda). Am I missing something here?
If you ever had to flip a V8 over on an engine stand you would be able to see what I'm getting at
07-28-02, 08:53 PM
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I started writing about the hundreds of V-8s I've worked on, and how the crank sits above the oil pan, and below the main mass of the engine block, the pistons, con rods, heads, valve train, camshaft(s), intake and exhaust manifolds, etc.
Ya know what? It doesn't matter. If driving a tiny FB with a big *** V8 in it is your thing, enjoy. If keeping your car a rotary but bolting on a truckload of mods floats your boat, yay. If keeping it bone-stock but mint is what makes you smile, have at it.
This is a forum for people who like the ReX, in whatever form.
Enjoy.
Ya know what? It doesn't matter. If driving a tiny FB with a big *** V8 in it is your thing, enjoy. If keeping your car a rotary but bolting on a truckload of mods floats your boat, yay. If keeping it bone-stock but mint is what makes you smile, have at it.
This is a forum for people who like the ReX, in whatever form.
Enjoy.