kylekyle

I now, 10th digit tells the model year, but I have tenth gigit "0"!!????!!!

Help from Directfreak:

A=80
B=81
C=82
D=83
E=84
F=85

0=???

Here is fota this car + VIN

MIKE-P-28

iTrader: (1)

Can we see the dash?

Its definately a GSL, from the looks of the dash from this angle looks 81-83? Cant tell without a good closeup and thats a strange VIN..

V8kilr

ok its definetly a gsl but because of the wheels that are on it im guessing gsl-se,

since it would be pretty hard to get those wheels in a 4x110 bolt pattern

if its a gsl-se then i would put my money on it that it is an 1985

the 1984 is the only other year gsl-se and its far more rare then the 1985 gsl-se

now if it is a gsl then i would go with a 1984

either way theres your answer pick one of the two 84 or 85

nimrodTT

I would guess that it is either an 84 or 85, but I have nothing to base that on. As for the vin, well it's certainly from another country so we shouldnt even try to guess what it means. Just open the drivers door and look at the date of manufacture to find out the model year.

Didn't one of the aussies on here say that all their 7's had 4x4.5 bolt circle? Seems that might apply all over the world.

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

That VIN Number is from EUROPE isn't it? The same rules don't apply. The manufactures aren't "forced" to the same standards as US cars.

However, I do believe I know what you have there.

Rear wiper plus sunroof give it away. Not to mention the 81-83 style badge on the "B" Pillar that says GSL. In 84/85 the model designations where on the left rear
If the car also has rear discs, then it's definately a GSL.

I know in my old 83, the Speedo said 120 mph, and my old 81 (identical in every way) had an 80 mph speedo.

84/85 North American cars had 140 mph speedos. Now if yours in in KPH, then ???

Also, does your car have an Air Oil cooler (front mount)? If so, I going for 83 as well. As the 84/85 cars had the inferior beehive oil cooler under the filter.

Also, 84/85 Cars had TWO windshield washer elements as opposed to one, and 84/85 Cars had cooling slits under the front spoiler for brake cooling, like the picture here.


So my money is on 83 GSL. the interior dash doesn't mean much, as I believe only North America got the newer 84/85 dashes, whereas the rest of the world kept the older style dash. - Even in Japan.

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

EUROPEAN VIN INFO

The European Union has issued a directive to the effect that a VIN must be used for all road vehicles in the EU member states. This directive complies with the ISO Standard but a year digit or factory code is not mandatory. Also, it is left to the choice of the manufacturer whether the VDS is actually used for vehicle attributes or not. The system only applies to motor powered vehicles with at least four wheels capable of speed above 25 km/h and trailers.

In North America, a system is used that is far more stringent than the ISO Standards but is, to use a computer phrase, downward compatible. Here, the VIN is divided in four sections:

The first three characters shall uniquely identify the manufacturer, make and type of vehicle (with the same exception of manufacturers that produce less than 500 vehicles). Effectively, this is the WMI. There are indeed examples of manufacturers who have more than one WMI that use the third character as a code for a vehicle category (for instance bus or truck). Just as often however this is not the case;

The second section consists of five characters (VIN positions 4-8) and identify the attributes of the vehicle. For each type of vehicle (passenger cars, MPV's, trucks, buses, trailers, motorcycles, incomplete vehicles other than trailers), different information is required. For cars, MPV's and light trucks it is required that the first two characters of this section are alphabetic, the third and fourth shall be numeric and the fifth alphanumeric. This section is the VDS in ISO 3779 but there it comprises another position of the VIN;

The third section consist of one character which is the · check digit, calculated over the other 16 characters of the VIN. This character can be numeric or the letter X;

The fourth section consists of eight characters on positions 10-17 of the VIN. The last five shall be numeric for cars, MPV's and light trucks and the last four shall be numeric for all other vehicles. The first character represents the vehicle · model year, the second character represents the plant of manufacture. The third through eighth characters are a sequential production number (for manufacturers producing more than 500 vehicles per year). For other manufacturers, the sixth, seventh and eight position represent the sequential production number. This section confirms to the VIS in ISO 3779.




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jeremy

iTrader: (1)

directfreak- that is a nice paintjob. hope mine will shine like that when i get it painted.

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

If you mean the one in my Sig, - thanks.

If you mean the white one, I got that a while ago off a web-site.

kylekyle

I dont no, how max speed. Because I bought it without motor. In Saturday I will make some fotos, this car now prepared for new paint + some bodykit.