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Old 05-21-07, 02:06 PM
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Steering Box Question?

Hi does anybody know if a 12A chassis steering box is the same as a 13B chassis?

I own a 1985 GSL SE without Power Steering. Any help would be appreciated.

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from what i remember SA and FB manual steering boxes are different.
should be 81-81.5 and 81.5 - 83, then 84-85 manual steering boxes will be the same.
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that said, there's little reason why the steering boxes should'ne be interchangeable. I was comparing my new one (1985) with Matt's '79 SA one today. While they were different, the mounting bolts were in the same place.
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How much did the new one cost you Manntis?
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with shipping, customs, and the lousy customer service, too much. I'd ask the dealership in your area. If it's $650 CDN or less, get it there.
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price

Just got a quote & its $850 CDN. Thinking whether to get it or not. Because I plan to keep this car for a long time.

Thanks though for helping me out.
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whay are you going to buy a new box? you can buy a used one for a fraction of the cost.
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Yeah, but recirculating ball steering boxes aren't the sharpest things to begin with, adding age to the equation just means a higher possibility of your steering becoming sloppy and loose sooner.

But for $850CDN, I'd see if I could pick up a used box and get it rebuilt somewhere. I don't know exactly where, but there's gotta be a place somewhere that rebuilds them.

Personally, I'm waiting for another option... Perhaps at some point in the near future we'll get R&P thanks to some aftermarket support... but we'll have to wait and see.

Mazdatrix does have them for $450USD. I've had awesome customer service through them, so if you're set on buying one, I'd start here:

http://www.mazdatrix.com/hsteer1.htm

It works out to like $550CDN + shipping, and if you ask them they just might be nice and ship it via something other than UPS (because UPS will totally rape you with "brokerage fees")

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Mazdatrix shipped mine US airmail. However, he took the packing box that it was in when he bought it off his local dealership and repacked it in a box substantially longer and thicker (with little padding, so I don't see the point) so shipping and duties were astronomical. By the time I had it in my posession, I'd paid about $800 CDN.

Then when I tried to order a couple of hundred bucks more worth of stuff, he turned into a dick and ranted about how stupid his customers are - and didn't fill the order.

Just buy the $850 one. For the extra $50, you're saving yourself a lot of hassle. Yes, it seems expensive but my stock steering lasted 22 years... I figure a one-time pop to make the steering tight and true again for another couple of decades is reasonable.

Do you own an oxyacetylene torch? my pitman arm was rusted on, and I had to heat it and use the two-hammer method to persuade it to come off. This was easier to do off the car than on, though removing the box with the arm still attached was like a nightmarish maze. I've no PS and the air conditioning had long since been removed, and my battery is relocated to the right side passenger bin. Even so, with a relatively straight shot, it's a two man job to R&I the box and column.
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That's so odd...

My experiences with Mazdatrix are the exact opposite. I ordered an RB presilencer. It got all the way to the local postal outlet when I found a full RB Street Port exhaust for sale used here on the forum. I called them, and they said to just refuse the package, and that they'd keep an in-store credit for me for the value of the presilencer.

They had honoured my request for which shipping company to use, so I didn't have to worry about UPS raping me for brokerage, and when it came time to order the next batch of stuff, I just called them, gave them the order over the phone, they confirmed that it would use up my in-store credit and it was shipped promptly.

Now, if you don't communicate with them, like when I ordered my first Mazdatrix order (my fuel level sender), then you'll end up paying UPS' stupid brokerage fees, because that seems to be their preferred shipping company.

Now I actually order RB stuff *through* Mazdatrix because I've gotten better customer service there and the prices are almost always the same.

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Another concern in the back of my mind is safety. Just say for instance that some Joe Blow steering shop does the rebuild & God forbid I'm cruising down the highway & BAM something goes wrong. I own a clean GSL SE & I intend to keep the car for a long time that's why I'm contemplating whether or not I should buy it.

Vipernicus42 thanks for letting me know about the Mazdatrix steering boxes.
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