1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Sniff your dip stick

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 04:54 PM
  #1  
ray green's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gone
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 11,442
Likes: 210
Sniff your dip stick

A recent discussion on the forum asked whether oil injected into the fuel finds it's way into the crankcase oil. As best I can tell, rotary engineers think this is impossible, since the rotary engine is not designed to do this, and rotary mechanics figure there must be something broken that needs fixing. However some of us rotary drivers who add oil or MMO to our fuel in our nicely running RX-7s are finding our engine oil rising and are wondering why. In the course of this discussion, someone (I can't remember who, sorry) suggested that I sniff my dip stick. So tonight when I got home, I did sniff my dip stick and sure enough, it smells like MMO. So if you add MMO to your fuel, you might want to give this a try.

Ray
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:06 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 376
Likes: 0
From: KY
mine smells like tuna.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 05:28 PM
  #3  
851stgen12a's Avatar
Off riding sportbikes!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,154
Likes: 0
From: Vancouver Wa
Hmmmm, Ill have to give it a try when my Fiance best back with my car.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:54 PM
  #4  
REVHED's Avatar
Hunting Skylines
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2001
Posts: 3,431
Likes: 4
From: Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
Just a few questions... what ratio are you pre-mixing and are you still running the metering pump?
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 10:59 PM
  #5  
Cody's Avatar
SKELETOR!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 1,077
Likes: 0
From: Prescott Valley, AZ
Mine tastes normal.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2003 | 11:05 PM
  #6  
Lt. Dan's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,418
Likes: 3
From: Fairfax, VA
Still don't know why someone would disable a perfectly working OMP...

Dan
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 12:15 AM
  #7  
rotary_neubie's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 386
Likes: 0
From: Manitoba Canada
Mine smells like gas....
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:25 AM
  #8  
cdrad51's Avatar
Lorem ipsum dolor sit ame
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 3,262
Likes: 1
From: The Net
Originally posted by rotary_neubie
Mine smells like gas....
ditto.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:50 AM
  #9  
RRTEC's Avatar
Rotartist
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 7,252
Likes: 2
From: Spring Hill TN 37174
mine smells like spaghetti.......oh wait that's my finger.....ok it smells like someone took mmo and coated my oil in it then spilled gas on it and then ate spaghetti for dinner.....that's just my finger again...anyways mine smells like oil i guess.....clean castrol gtx....ah tastes a bit like spaghetti though....damn finger!
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 04:43 AM
  #10  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
Re: Sniff your dip stick

Originally posted by ray green
In the course of this discussion, someone (I can't remember who, sorry) suggested that I sniff my dip stick.
That would be me.

Both of my currently running engines' dipsticks smell like gas. I'm sure when I get my other engines rebuilt, they'll be a little worse because they're going to be street ported. Ported engines have a higher occurrence of gas dilution. This means either a heavier oil should be used, and/or it should be changed more often.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 08:17 AM
  #11  
ray green's Avatar
Thread Starter
Gone
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 11,442
Likes: 210
REVHED, I'm mixing 8 oz per 16 gal fill up with the OMP hooked up and working normally. The oil level doesn't really rise, it just doesn't go down anymore since I started adding the MMO.

My purpose with this post is to add a little comic relief, we pretty much beat this horse to a pulp in the earlier posts. Jeff, the dip stick sniffer, resolved the issue by pointing out that a certain amount of blow by (or leaking or whatever, I still don't quite understand exactly how it gets there) of the combustion gasses into the crank case is normal for rotaries.

So now, along with pouring red colored fluids into our gas tanks, we must also suffer the embarassment of being seen sniffing our dip sticks in public. Ah, the pleasures of driving a rotary.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:06 PM
  #12  
Wankelguy's Avatar
My FSP Fiesta eats Jettas
Tenured Member 20 Years
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 1,616
Likes: 3
I can't sbell bide.
By doze is all plugged up.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2003 | 01:55 PM
  #13  
Steve Shulz's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 566
Likes: 0
From: Gig Harbor, WA
It would be innevitable. Since the intake is side ported when the intake stroke is complete there is still fuel being drawn down through the manifold. The gas will get under the side seals and down to the oil seals and seep through (gas being lighter than oil) and into the oil system. My SE was extremely bad when the injectors were stuck open (obviously had flooding probls too). My 12A smells of gas too. Too much would be a concern, I guess if you can light it with a smoke you should worry.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
23Racer
Race Car Tech
1
Sep 21, 2015 10:48 AM
younG_Gunner
2nd Generation Specific (1986-1992)
2
Sep 9, 2015 08:26 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:05 AM.