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Old 08-11-14, 07:46 PM
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MN Should i make this rx7 car trade?

Hi guys i want your opinion on this i am thinking on trading my 79 red rx7 for a modified 79 rx7 with the 13b. I want a car i can have fun with and drive and modify i don't want to do that to this car plus i don't have alot of space to store all of them. Here is the info and pic on the car what do you guys feel i should do?

Okay i just got through talking with a guy with a 79 rx7 that i was looking at thought he sold it. It has alot of upgrades upgraded 13b engine rebuilt with 5k miles the carb is bad he has it tuned for a street engine but this engine is stock, has new touch pad cd player, new coils, rims and tires, wires, needs new paint and front bumper all the work was done by a rotary shop. i am leaning on this one it is more but i think it has alot of the work done what do you guys think will work for me?

On the 13b car he will sell me the car and a engine either a street port with bad water jackets or a bridge port with bad rotor housings the stock 13b is fine just needs a new carb because the carb on it is the a street port he will sell me all of it for $2900 or i bet i can get him down without the carb or extra engine for around $1700 do you guys think i should take the extra engine for the price or keep the stock 13b the stock was just rebuilt 5k miles ago. this car will be used for daily driving.
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Old 08-11-14, 07:51 PM
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Your car plus $2900? I wouldnt do that. If the blue car runs and drives, minus needing a carb rebuid, it looks like its worth $2900. Heck, those wheels and the wide body kit alone are worth $2000. The paint looks nice, which is a plus especially if its Daytona Blue (rare). Tinted windows. Nice black interior? What exhaust? What suspension? Looks like its worth $4000 in parts alone.
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No it would be a even trade that price was before a trade. The front bumber is cracked and needs to be done plus new paint it looks good there he sent me pics it has white spots along the car.
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Drive your damn SA first! It's a wonderful car that needs to see the pavement a touch.
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Lol i can't don't have insurance on it yet. I want a more of a driver rx7 this one i don't want to drive.
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why don't u just keep ur car and enjoy it. why don't u have insurance? i hope it's not because of $ cause then this thread really makes no sense.

u say u don't want to drive it cause it's too nice...to me that means the car has no issues. u make a thread on the technical forum about another car...then u make yet another thread about possibly trading for widebody which would mean u trade a perfectly running car for a project car. do u have any idea how much bodywork/painting costs? how are you going to get around town now? do u have another car? i'm simply not understanding ur thought process here. u already screwed ur self the first time by not listening to members...ur about to do it a second time in my opinion.
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Yes i had another thread that one doesn't get seem from the main page so i wanted to get it to more members. Yes i know the paint and bumper will cost around 3k to fix when i do. I am falling more in love with this modified 79 it has a ton of parts and money into it already i don't want to modify my 79 when it is stock. I don't have insurance because i can't get my licence yet having a problem with the dmv i will have it hopefully this month.
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Originally Posted by thecody59
Yes i had another thread that one doesn't get seem from the main page so i wanted to get it to more members. Yes i know the paint and bumper will cost around 3k to fix when i do. I am falling more in love with this modified 79 it has a ton of parts and money into it already i don't want to modify my 79 when it is stock. I don't have insurance because i can't get my licence yet having a problem with the dmv i will have it hopefully this month.
If you cant get your license yet, then stop looking at cars. I also agree that it would be outright STUPID to trade a good condition running 79 for one that has been modded to hell and is still in a project state. The fact that you are even considering this makes me believe that you have no idea what you really have in your garage/driveway. Better yet sell it to a forum member that will truly appreciate it and then go buy a civic.
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Even ncorss said parts on this alone are over 4k all this work was done at akins rotary shop i am guessing he might have about 10k into this car my car is only worth 3k i want a sports car and rx7 i can mod and part to and upgrade i don't want to do this to this car and the more i drive it the less it is worth how can i enjoy it then knowing every time i drive it loses value? This car has alot of new parts all it needs is a carb for now and paint in the future.
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Originally Posted by thecody59
Even ncorss said parts on this alone are over 4k all this work was done at akins rotary shop i am guessing he might have about 10k into this car my car is only worth 3k i want a sports car and rx7 i can mod and part to and upgrade i don't want to do this to this car and the more i drive it the less it is worth how can i enjoy it then knowing every time i drive it loses value? This car has alot of new parts all it needs is a carb for now and paint in the future.
Yeah, and I've dumped 4-5 grand over the years in parts into my '83 and it's still worth 3 grand at best when I paid 2 for it

In your situation with the SA though, summer driving, less than 5-10k miles a year, that will do nothing to degrade the car in any realistic fashion. You may need to replace minor things, but the engine will be fine. The biggest danger is getting hit in a car with zero safety equipment.

I really would keep the SA as a fantastic summer toy and then buy a Camry or something for winter/parts runner. It doesn't matter how much horsepower on how many mods you have on a sporty 1st gen when the roads get slick. These things are undone by 3 inches of snow. Only time I thought I was going to not make it in a car was a unexpected April blizzard that dumped 5 inches on the last few hours of a long drive. If it hadn't been late and the middle of nowhere there were a couple times I would have slid into oncoming traffic and wrecked her instead of a empty lane.
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I really don't need a beater right now can use my moms car for winter. I don't know i am kinda falling in love with he blue 13b right now it is calling me to buy it not like the red 79. I want the car mebe with the bridge port motor even if you think it looks like **** lol.
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Personally, I would not daily drive that car, or any widebody. Too much risk and costs associated with it. If you want a DD, get a near stock RX7 and enjoy.
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Why wants wrong with a widebody rx7?
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You have no clue how well that widebody has been done or the quality of the paint on it. This
minus any issues with the motor or the mechanicals. That widebody may end up cracking and
falling apart and the paint may start to disintegrate once you have it out in the elements and
start driving it. Body work and paint are not cheap and will put it up on stands for a few
months to make it right. Doesn't sound like a DD special to me.

Also, DDing that widebody, even if its well done, is a problem. You'll always be scraping or
curbing some part of it. I think thats what dbragg is referring to. Also, you are gonna have to
dump a ton of time and money into it to make it drivable and reliable from the sounds of it.
You have to assume everything the sellers is telling you is a lie first of all. Why does he want
your nice stock rx7 when he has this great widebody? Did you ask yourself that questions yet?
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Here are pics of of the body and paint
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pics of the stock 13b in the car and interior
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cody, i think u've already made up your mind on what u want to do. here's the biggest thing that will help you the most...make sure you know how to use google to do your researching (better than the search engine on this site). for example: "carb tuning 1st site:rx7club.com" or "engine rebuild how to site:rx7club.com", etc.
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Yes i have been doing alot of research on this site and am reading alot to help me out on these cars. But i have not fully made up my mind yet your guys kind of set me back on dding a widebody but i do like this car alot but i do not know what is wrong with his paint why is it like that with the white blobs everywhere?
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"white blobs" is bondo where repairs have been done. if u have the funds and space, i would buy this as a "project car" and enjoy ur current 79 as a dd.
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Well we have 3 spaces right now my mom has one car i have my 79 plus in the spring will around winter we can park on the streets so i have space for another. The guy says he has lists of receipt for the work done to the car i believe most of it was done by the shop. He also said there is zero rust on the car but it really isn't a project it can drive no problem with a new carb just body work. I don't have the full funds yet it will take a few weeks i don't want to lose it though.
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It looks like in the back pic he was in some type of accident mebe or mebe they sanded to far why does the paint look so nice did they paint it first then bondo it doesn't make sense looks like a brand new paint job.
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Unless you know bodywork or know a body shop personally I would stay away from it. Widebody cars are not good for daily driving or even out in the elements daily. So unless you have an indoor garage I would not buy it.
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My opinion, based only on the pics as shown; those bondo spots are places where the body mods have started to crack loose from the underlying steel, & the owner has sanded the cracked/blistered areas down through the paint, rebondo-ed the cracks (instead of truly fixing the possibly-flawed install) & started to finish sand it for re-paint, then stopped.

All the sanded areas look to be along the joints where the body mods would have been molded to the steel body.

Also (opinion, again) the stepped-in front end of that body kit is dramatically unattractive. No elegance at all.

Additionally, the fuel lines in that engine bay pic run way too close to the exhaust; they are routed over the hot side of the engine instead of over the cold side as is normal, and as-is are a fire hazard, huge long looping rubber lines hanging down like that. Amateur work, in my opinion.

I would not buy this car.

PS Painted the wiper arms blue? Seriously?
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he said all the work was done by akins rotary shop i wouldn't think they would do work like that i don't know about the paint though.
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He just got back to me he talked to his mechanics and he said they said his car was to nice to trade for mine funny you guys say not to trade my nice car for his project and his guys are saying not to trade his nice car for my car. Do you guys think the car is worth buying mebe without the carb for $1750 as a project?



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