1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Should i fix it or burn the car!

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-25-14, 08:22 PM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Should i fix it or burn the car!

I was wondering what I should do with my 83 mazda rx7 gsl it has been nothing but a pain in the *** since I bought it and I don't know if I should cut my loses or finish it. It has two rust holes under the rear window, the tail lights are cracked, there are rust holes under the car where the bins are, bins broken, headliner broken, head lights have to be put down manually, all the parts under the car are rusted and flaking. I have put about 4k into this should I just part it out and get mebe 1k or fix it I feel like now setting the car on fire and burning it when I fix something another thing breaks on it what should I do?
Old 06-25-14, 08:37 PM
  #2  
RX for fun

iTrader: (13)
 
Siraniko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Socal
Posts: 15,926
Likes: 0
Received 22 Likes on 19 Posts
Its time to say **** it and get another shell
Old 06-25-14, 08:39 PM
  #3  
I actually own Rotaries

iTrader: (40)
 
73rx313b's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North Cackalacky
Posts: 2,023
Received 1,466 Likes on 1,025 Posts
+1 What Mel said!!
Old 06-25-14, 08:40 PM
  #4  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yeah but then I would have to transfer all my parts over to that car I know **** about that. Mebe I should just part it out.
Old 06-25-14, 08:46 PM
  #5  
Senior Member

 
rotaryjunkee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: palmetto
Posts: 380
Likes: 0
Received 3 Likes on 2 Posts
If you dont know how to remove and replace all the parts to another shell, find a friend that can help or jus part it out and by another 7.
Old 06-25-14, 08:50 PM
  #6  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
how much could I get parting it out?
Old 06-26-14, 05:55 AM
  #7  
acdelco d1906 Nkg 49034

 
midnight mechanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: huntsville
Posts: 1,109
Received 74 Likes on 63 Posts
Nothing a little metal work, and bondo won't fix. Your car is just starting to get good, all the weak things are falling off so only the strong things are left.

Fix the headliner later, throw the bins in the dumpster. Fixing the rusted metal under the bins can be tricky. Pictures would help. Cracked tail lights? I replaced mine for $25.

Headlights won't go up by themselves? What's wrong with a couple of toggle switches?

Every month or two, people come up to me and talk about the rx-7 that they had, and how they wish they didn't get rid of it.
Old 06-26-14, 08:22 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Well I paid a guy $300 and he is going to fix a lot of it I paid him because I thought it was a electrical issue on my car but it wasn't so he is fixing different stuff I can get him to fix the shocks, breaks, and rotors, also the headlights, gas cap that won't open, the window that won't go down. So it will be mostly down mebe I will just use it as a Junker till it breaks.
Old 06-26-14, 08:25 AM
  #9  
Out In the Barn


iTrader: (9)
 
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: KC
Posts: 6,055
Received 1,015 Likes on 801 Posts
Originally Posted by thecody59
Yeah but then I would have to transfer all my parts over to that car I know **** about that. Maybe I should just part it out.
Owning an RX-7 requires the desire and ability to tear in to things. It's not the kind of car that you expect to get in and turn the key and go without sometimes having to fix things. They can be a leaning experience. Think of this car as your RX-7 education. After you get done fixing this one, you'll be ready for the next challenge.

I'm with Siraniko on this one. If the rust is so bad it's going to cost more to fix it then get a better shell and transfer parts. Get this one running first. A decent shell should cost under $1000 based on condition/year.
Old 06-26-14, 08:29 AM
  #10  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
It doesn't have to much rust just the two small ones on the rear and I think two under the car one is about 2 inches long by 1 inch wide.
Old 06-26-14, 08:33 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
There is this shell on craigslist by me could this work?

1983 Mazda Rx7 GSL - NEED TO SELL
Old 06-26-14, 08:48 AM
  #12  
Waffles - hmmm good

iTrader: (1)
 
t_g_farrell's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Lake Wylie, N.C.
Posts: 8,783
Received 282 Likes on 232 Posts
You are in rust country. That shell is probably better than yours but there's rust starting on it. On
the other hand the price is right for some of the extra parts on it.

If you expect a 30 year old car to be DD, forget it and get a honda. Yours sound like a rust
bucket, so yeah you should get a different shell and swap it all over. Sounds like you may not
be up to the task. If you want to learn a lot and get very dirty and wrench on the car, then get
the other shell and go at it. If thats not something you like to do then you should look for
another 7 in better shape and expect to pay 3 or 4K for it.
Old 06-26-14, 09:04 AM
  #13  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I wouldn't say a rust bucket there are a lot worse cars in my city that have 5 times more rust yeah I don't know if I am up to do a engine swap mebe I can just fix up this car and just drive it in summer and store it in winter
Old 06-26-14, 12:29 PM
  #14  
1 bar boost

iTrader: (4)
 
notveryhappyjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 2,753
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
burn & film it
Old 06-26-14, 12:35 PM
  #15  
acdelco d1906 Nkg 49034

 
midnight mechanic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: huntsville
Posts: 1,109
Received 74 Likes on 63 Posts
Forget what I said about "a little metal work". The whole under body looks rusty, even the rust has rust!!
Old 06-26-14, 12:43 PM
  #16  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I would take pics and post them but I don't know how to.
Old 06-26-14, 05:14 PM
  #17  
1 bar boost

iTrader: (4)
 
notveryhappyjack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Seattle, Washington
Posts: 2,753
Received 5 Likes on 3 Posts
Old 06-26-14, 06:41 PM
  #18  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I did just find more rust on the bottom of the doors and under the body kit but it is Minnesota there are cars with 5 times worse rust and people still drive them. There is one good thing on the car the is a aggressor Manifold from Rotary Reliability & Racing is that anything good on the engine?
Old 06-26-14, 08:33 PM
  #19  
Out In the Barn


iTrader: (9)
 
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: KC
Posts: 6,055
Received 1,015 Likes on 801 Posts
Post pics of the rust and any after market parts.
Old 06-26-14, 08:54 PM
  #20  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I will try to take some pics in the morning and figure out how to post them.
Old 06-26-14, 09:14 PM
  #21  
Tinker-tastic

iTrader: (1)
 
prophetjohn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: U.P. Michigan
Posts: 143
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
you need to upload them to photobucket (make an account) and then paste the URL in a message using the instert image button. rust is rust. all old cars in our general latitude will have it, but its all fixable! with time and patience there is nothing you cant accomplish! i hope the suspension parts work out for you!
Old 06-27-14, 09:08 AM
  #22  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
here are the pics of the engine and rust
Attached Thumbnails Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-10-13.31.42.jpg   Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-10-13.31.47.jpg   Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-27-08.46.09.jpg   Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-27-08.46.38.jpg   Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-27-08.47.05.jpg  

Should i fix it or burn the car!-2014-06-27-08.47.36.jpg  
Old 06-27-14, 09:17 AM
  #23  
Impractical

iTrader: (1)
 
Spannerhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Nice business socks.

Get another shell and swap the engine over. Seriously. These aren't vintage Dusenburgs; they made thousands of RX-7s. I wouldn't touch that rust with a 10-foot pole.

A side benefit of doing an engine swap is that you can use the recipient car's non-toasted wiring harness.



Edit: You're going to need a donor shell anyway to repair the rust, since to get rid of it you'd need to cut it out and weld in intact sheetmetal. Much, MUCH easier to swap an engine than to do rust repair.
Old 06-27-14, 09:29 AM
  #24  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
 
thecody59's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: minnesota
Posts: 498
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Would it even be worth it and I don't know nothing bout engine swaps I know these engine are not as complex as newer cars but still
Old 06-27-14, 09:38 AM
  #25  
Impractical

iTrader: (1)
 
Spannerhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chattanooga, TN
Posts: 167
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As engine swaps go, rotaries are probably the easiest of all engines. They're light, compact and there isn't too much attached to them. I had absolutely no mechanical experience and I swapped an engine from a rusty '85 GSL to a rust-free, cosmetically-mint '85 S. First car project ever. Loved it.

If you find someone to help who's done a swap before and get all your ducks in a row beforehand, you could do it over a long weekend, no sweat.

Anyway, rust repair is even harder. Looks like your options are:

1. Repair the rust and fix the car as-is. Hard, expensive and time-consuming.
2. Swap the engine to a nicer shell. Challenging but doable.
3. Junk the car and buy a Civic or equivalent.

If #1 or #2 aren't your cup of tea, junk it and get another car.


Quick Reply: Should i fix it or burn the car!



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:59 AM.