Skylance

Hey,

I am wanting a STS for a 79 RX-7. Does anybody know of any vendors/fabricators who make such a product. I have searched exstensively and the best I can come up with is for an 81 - 85 RX-7.

Thanks in advance!

Alex-7

I've never heared of one available for the SA. You might find someone to make one for you though, like that jorx guy on here or something.



I dunno, good luck.

--Alex

Hades12

Someone found one in Japan a bit ago. But it was old stock. No one that we know of currently sales one.


//RANT

Dont go screwing up your 79. The Big shifer if one of the unique qualitys of the 79 and 80 cars.

//RANT

Alex-7

^ ^

jorx81@aol.com

iTrader: (6)

There is a kit made, they are only about $100 if I remember correctly。
Someone give him a link. or try searching this forum for sa or 79-80 short shift.

Unless you are tall and sit far away from the shifter I would just remove 2 inches from the center section between the two bends, voila!

evil_motors

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removing metal just makes it a short shifter not a short throw shifter.... the short throws is what people want.. you have to move the damn stick like a foot to engage the gears..

jorx81@aol.com

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Shortening the lever of a sa shifter will produce the same (at least very similar) result as a real short throw on a fb. the trouble is the shifter sits further away from the driver

evil_motors

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how would that be the same as a short throw.. you would have to change the pivot point to make it a short throw... obviously you have never driven a car that had a short throw shifter.. i have.. i drove a mustang with one.. and damn you only had to move the shifter like an inch to shift gears.

evil_motors

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plus what are you guys f'n midgets? the shifter doesnt sit that far away.. jeezz.. its not like reaching for the passenger window crank..

Skylance

This is the only one I have been able to find. It claims to fit a 72 + RX-7 Ok maybe just a typo.

http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm...%20Kit&vaffid=0

The real reason I was looking for a STS is that my shifter seems to be broken. It wobbles PROFUSELY whether or not it is in gear. This makes finding the gears difficult. <-- Especially 3rd. I don't necessarily need a STS, but just to fix the problem.

Thanks everyone!

trochoid

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Never had an SA to play with, but have you checked your shifter bushings? Your description is the classic signs of worn shifter bushings in all of the later models.

jayroc

Me and jorx81 had a SA racecar a few years back and he cut down the shifter for it. I didn`t like it, though, thought the gears were too hard to get into, but joe didnt seem to mind it. It might still be around, actually..

mckinneyml

Here's my SA shifter. The previous owner cut cut it down. Not a true STS but I like it. Perfect height for my stereo. I'm still searching for a true STS.

Stereo write up located here.
https://www.rx7club.com/1st-generation-specific-1979-1985-18/sa-owners-aftermarket-stereos-377100/

jorx81@aol.com

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I make real short throw shifters dude.
YOU obviuisly haven't removed shifters from both cars and compared them. The pivot point is already higher on a 79-80, the rod is just much longer. cutting the rod will acheive a very similar effect to that of installing a real short throw kit on 81-88 models.

The first shortend shifter I made for our (jayroc and I) 79 was too short and the bushings were shot also, but if you just cut 2 inches out of the center section between the bends and weld it back together in the original shape, it's a cheap and easy mod you'll be happy with. I dare you to try it.

candyassmiler

double dare you.

evil_motors

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jorx isnt there a thread about how your shifter sucks... i might have to go find it.. plus that still isnt a short throw shifter.. its just a short shifter... you dont change the pivot point you just get closer to where it pivots.. and yes i have seen many shifters in my day i am a mechanic.. some people are happy with a shifter that is short... i however am more inclined to functionality not looks.

your shifter is like mckinneys its just cut down..

its sort of like your leg.. if you cut half of your thigh off and stitch it back together its not going to make you run faster its just going to make you shorter..

Skylance

Okay, so it may be the bushings. How would I be able to tell positively that they are in need of being replaced. Is there anything else besides the bushings that could be broken? Where can I get the bushings? Can I replace just the bushings or do I need to find a whole new shifter? Like I said earlier, I'm not necessarily looking for a STS, but I was thinking about it since the current shifter is screwed. Whatever. I just need to fix my shifter. Can anybody point me in the right direction. Sorry about all the questions.

Also, One last thing Im not trying to be a jerk. But . . . I already know the difference between a short shifter and short throw shifter (STS). So that debate can be saved for another thread.

Thanks Everyone.

jayroc

Try here Skylance.
http://www.mazdatrix.com/g4.htm

evil_motors, what`s your problem? Good luck finding that thread saying "joe`s shifters suck". Yes, he sold "short shifters" that were just cut down originally months ago, but now he sells a short throw kit that he custom makes. People want more that he can supply at the moment, so yeah, they must suck ***.
"this one time, I drove a mustang so I KNOW!" Seriously?

Skylance

thanks jayroc!

Skylance

so, does anybody have experience with this one that nopi is offering?

http://www.nopionline.com/index.cfm?...20Kit&vaffid=0

evil_motors

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Look pal.. if you people would stop and think for a second about what makes a short throw shifter.. it doesnt matter how much you cut it down its not a short throw shifter.. its just a short shifter.. you have to change the lower half of the shifter to make it a short throw shifter.. which you cant do on an sa.. plus cuting something and welding it back together in my opinion isnt great craftsmanship.. its backyard hillbilly mechanics. havent you ever noticed that true short shifters arent stock shifters cut down and welded back together.. they are made out of one solid piece of metal with the fulcrum in a different position so that when you shift you only have to travel a short way... hence a short throw.. jesus its not rocet science people.. if you want a short shifter then by all means buy a jorx ... but its not going to make your throws short.. so you cant call it a short throw shifter.

I am done arguing with ignorant people..

evil_motors

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here you go mazdatrix proved my point.

The shorter throw of these Short Throw Shifters is accompolished by changing the pivot point of the lever. The distance the **** travels when shifting is shortened to 3 1/2" from the original 6".


thanks jayroc

jayroc

evil_motors, I will resist the urge to flame you before it gets out of hand here and attempt to explain further, because I guess you just do not know..

In the past Joe took and cut down shifters and sold them as short shifters, not short throw. People bought them knowing this and he sold several.
I never said anything about his strategy for cutting down SA shifters making them pseudo-short throw. I just said I didnt like the very first one he did that was cut too short, and that was 4-5 years ago. Neither did I say that cut shifters are the same as short throw.

What he does now IS add length to the lower section, he also sells a spacer with to compensate for the new length. It is exactly the same as what the "one piece machined" version accomplishes except much cheaper. It is 100% a short throw shifter kit.
Why can you not do the same thing to a SA shifter?

Mouthing off saying stuff like 'isn't there a joe`s shifters suck thread' (which I am still waiting to see) lead me to think you were already apprised of this, but I guess not?
That type **** really gets on my nerves.

jorx81@aol.com

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Thanks for the back Jayrockit

evil, look at a 79 trans and shifter, compare to 81+ trans and shifter, you will know what I'm taking about. I don't touch the top half of my shifters, and my spacers are cnc'd. Call me a hillbilly but my short throw kits work very well and for half or less than the price of the leading mftrs shifter kit.

BTW, If ANYONE is unhappy with my shifter send it back for a full refund.

evil_motors

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i think i may have been reading really old posts then... i do look way back reading up on stuff.. so i think i was reading about when you cut them down.. so if you are doing it the right way now.. then all the power to you.. good job and sorry about the crap talk.. the things i read were about cut down shifters.. so i appologize for that.. but i dont appologize to the retards that think that a cut down shifter is a STS.. so i just think that i am an idiot here and i should keep my mouth shut..

jorx i hope you make your welds strong because that would suck to shift and break your shifter.. lol.. but i am sure you are a good welder..

jayrock.. i was told that you couldnt make a STS for a 79 because of how it connects to the tranny directly.. so if that is wrong it wasnt my thoughts.. i was told that by a few people who i thought were knowledgeable about rexs