BigJim

So my friend, and my brother, both have Neon SRT-4's. Neither have let me drive them yet but i was just wondering how my rx would stand against them. Both of them are stock. All 3 cars are manuals. I have an 84 GSL-SE with:

Stage 2 Street Port from Atkins
Strut Tower Bar
Torque Brace
RB Lowering Springs
MSD Ignition
Relocated Air Filter in Front of Rad.
Racing Beat Header and Presilencer

Dan_s_young

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with a weber 48dcoe or a IDA I bet you could keep up, but the only way to tell for sure is to take them to the track.

FB II

they will win unless they just plain cant drive. those things are pretty quick in stock form.

Tech_Greek

I drove one, I thought it wasn't anything special...in the end its still 'just a neon' and then you hop in your 130 HP RX7 (in my case) and enjoy the ride vs. being in the neon and feeling uncomfortable all the time.

- Tech

BigJim

5.8 sec 0-60 as opposed to my 7.8 stock, but ive got some upgrades so i should be able to keep up i would think. Gotta find nearest track to find out though.

rxseven07

you will destroy them off the line, if you race for an 1/8th mile, youll win, but the 1/4 is a diff story, and i agree with dan, put a weber 45dcoe on there, and youll hang with them... youll be in the 14.3 second range with that streetport you have, depends on the size thats all...

Directfreak

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You will get owned, completely, an unequivicably. You may only hang 0-30 mph..

rotaryxperamental

Put the same amount of boost into your as is going into theres, then see what happens.

rxseven07

yeah, get that fuel injection out of there and put a carb on, then you can call it a race...

BigJim

carbs are expensive, and u can get just as much hp out of fuel injection, just costs a little bit more money, thus defeating the whole carbs are expensive statement. But anyways, changing to carb probably isnt a simple swap, at least when i think about it its not. But if its fairly easy i may consider it. I did my own engine swap so im sure im up for it. How much could i get a setup for my car, complete setup. I want something that will make my car pretty fast mind you. Id really like to put a small turbo on and run 5-10 psi maybe. But taht to is expensive so yea. I dont know what im tryin to say here

Dan_s_young

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well, im sure Robert from Rotaryshack could help you out, it won't be expensive... But whoever said making a really fast car is cheap? I would go with a weber 48 a weber 45 is too small for a 13B streetport, if you talk to robert he can turbo prep the carb for you and stuff if you would like to add a turbo to it in the near future. There would be a bunch involved in changing over to a carbed setup but the performance gains would be worth it especially when you are running boost. There is alot involved in creating your own turbo setup but in the long run it can be very successful, as long as your determined and not afraid to spend money and learn.

Directfreak

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Once again - you will lose. Carb, EFI, whatever.

Your only chance is with some kind of forced induction. On top of that,
those SRT's work EXTREMELY well with minor mods.

It doesn't sound like your brother or friend has taken you for a
"quick" ride in their car. Otherwise you wouldn't be thinking you could take
them.

Siraniko

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13BTOY

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I'm going to try one as soon as I get the GSL rear end on. Mods done to the car is as follows: S4 13B, RB Dellorto carb, RB SP exhaust, direct ifre ignition and somewhat stripped interior. I'll let you know what happens.


Thanks, Ed

Gag_Halfront

Seriously, DirectFreak is right. You're gonna get owned. SRT4s are fast cars. I used to drive a '98 Trans Am and I had it in the 12s. Before I started modding it, though, it was a mid to high 13s car. At that point stock SRT4s were good races for me. If I was off my game and spun my tires at launch even a little bit, it would be a close race. if I missed a shift, they'd probably take me.

(A good race, IMHO, is one in which the cars are fairly evenly matched and the skill of the driver is what determines the outcome.)

I doubt that a stock SRT4 versus a non-turbo rotary is going to be a good race.

Arockrx7

Yes, SRT-4 Teh FastArrrr! Evaarrr!

I too think SE's would get owned. But. . . here is another car to think about Mazdaspeed protege. . . I raced my friends ( CAI, DP ) mostly stock and I had him till 3rd gear but by that time he was next to my door. then walked all over me. . . I think the SRT-4 would be that close.

Directfreak

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Mazdaspeed protegee, is a tiny powerless turbo car. With less barely 170 to the wheels stock. It's a poor excuse for a turbo car.

The SRT-4's are putting over 225 to the wheels, stock. The newer ones even more.

Plus, how many "stock" turbo cars are there out there. Everybody raises the boost some.

I don't think I know of any SRT's with less than 300whp around here. A few have 450+.

Narcisse91

I had an SRT-4 for a little while, it made 250hp at the wheels, stock. It also had a nice torque peak at almost 280ft-lbs. Easy to make a ton more power, too.

But then I got bored and sold it.

Pen_Two

A stock one only has 225 on the window sticker. The only way you can get more is a factory installed Stage 3 which puts it up to 350 I think. I don't know about you, but no matter how fast that car can go. It's still, and will always be, a Neon.

A picture I have comes to mind...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v297/EYP0097/Troy.jpg

Arockrx7

Neons Cant handle the turn. unless its ACR

Directfreak

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The Car is GROSSLY underrated from the factory. Many of them put more to the WHEELS than they are "rated" at the flywheel. It's Dodge's way of keeping insurance down, and Ricer's at bay.

The car has plenty of stock fuel to support 300whp with no modifications, other than turning up the boost.

The factory (MOPAR) has a catalog of Go-fast goodies to make the car a monster, - all while keeping the warranty. The engine is overbuilt, just like a 2JZ.
It looks like a neon, but it's not a neon. It doesn't have the name "Neon" anywhere on it. The ENTIRE drivetrain is completely different from the rest of the Neons.

That's like saying my car is a GSL-SE, with a 13B. Technically it is, but it's not.

If I owned a relatively stock RX-7, I'd rather say I got beat by an SRT-4, than a Neon anyways..

And go check the lounge, the kills section, etc. The SRT-4's are giving stock and midly modded 3rd gens a run for their money.

shadylurker

srt-4s a nice little car for the money. i always thought they should give it a LSD! stock ****.

Pen_Two

Lol, good for the 3rd gens. You can preach about it all you want. It just means you're a fanboy. I don't like the car, and you pressing more and more facts in my face makes me care less and less. Those things are swarming all over my area, and I can't understand why. It's like saying, "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME I PAID 25K FOR A ALREADY MODDED NEON!"

I'd sooner go buy one of those repulsive Cobalt SS's. You like the Neon, and I don't. Stop preaching.

wklink

Uhh, nice comeback there Pen

"I don't care if you do counter my opinion with facts. I say the cars suck!"

Pen_Two

I said I don't like it. If I don't like it...last I checked it means I don't like it.

Did I once say it was garbage?

Edit-
Last I also knew, I was entitled to any opinion I wanted.

I know it's faster than my car, but because it's faster it doesn't mean I have to respect it or appreciate it.