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Old 07-20-05, 10:10 PM
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SE Rear Brakes - Need SE Proportioning Valve?

I swapped the SE rear end into my 83 - do I need to get the SE proportioning valve? I can keep my original master cylinder, correct? Will I have to find the prop. valve from someone off the forum? I noticed that neither Victoria British or Mazdatrix carry them...Or do they come with the master cylinder?
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Master cylinder is the same.

Prop valve attaches near the master cylinder.

I've bypassed mine altogether. Rear brakes still hardly do anything useful...
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Will i be sacrificing any braking performance if I use my original prop valve on?
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Originally Posted by The_7
Will i be sacrificing any braking performance if I use my original prop valve on?
You're already sacrificing braking performance by switching to rear disc brakes that have rarely-if-ever-work calipers with built-in handbrake mechanisms. What's the difference?
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i rebuilt the calipers...or do you mean they suck by design?
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Originally Posted by peejay
You're already sacrificing braking performance by switching to rear disc brakes that have rarely-if-ever-work calipers with built-in handbrake mechanisms. What's the difference?
Are the drum brakes better than the 84-85 GSL GSL-SE disc?

What about the second gen conversion? I guess I'm asking is it worth upgrading the brakes to four wheel disc?
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I've never driven a car with 4 wheel disc where the handbrake was part of the caliper, where the rear brakes did anything useful.

There is a damned good reason why heavy trucks use drum brakes... drums are more efficient than discs size for size, especially when you put the complication of a handbrake mechanism in there.

I get to drive nevarmore's car (a GS, not a GSL like mine) ever now and then in TSD rallies. It's so nice to drive a car where the rear brakes *contribute* to braking. 'Specially on gravel. His car, I would say, has more rear braking than my GSL does with *no* proper valve at all.
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Originally Posted by peejay
I've never driven a car with 4 wheel disc where the handbrake was part of the caliper, where the rear brakes did anything useful.
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so where does all the humbug comes from? i've seen it written in several places about the rears locking up being a problem. i've been driving these cars HARD for close to 19 years now and i've never experienced a rear lockup, but your comment has sparked curiosity.
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Hey,

I just did a whole rear end swap from 83 GS drum to GSL-SE rear disk. In all these years that have passed. Do you guys recommend swapping out the proportioning valve? I have not swap out the proportioning valves yet, I went for a test drive after completing the swap and I have been getting some light dragging on the rear brakes. But I think it might be due to when I removed the GSLSE rear end from the car it had the e-brake up. I opened up the calipers last night and pushed in the pistons. But I havent gone for another test drive yet to see if the dragging stop.

Thanks,
Ernie
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