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Is the rotary engine doomed to be just a memory?

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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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as long as I drive my 7 it won't be a memory
if they do stop production..we will be elevated to utterly unique status
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Old Mar 16, 2006 | 11:49 PM
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As soon as we are utterly unique and rare you know every one will want one.

that is the day the rotary will flourish.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 12:04 AM
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I rarely see other 1st gens on the road here..but I know a few exist so we are already pretty unique esp in this area
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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i just bought myself a 1979 gen.1 mazda Rx7 for $560 in pieces and just had a new paint job and i cant wait till it s running, theres a good number of modifiied rx7 gen1s and 2s around my area and i love em, look great and weight is just over 900kg well 1000+kg's and they fly. mine is running a 12A rotary which aint too bad, any useful info you guys could give me?? would be great.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bad 83
Well, not to get a big stink started over the RX8, but didn't the plant building the 8s burn down? This was the info I was given not too long ago. I piont blank asked a local Mazda dealer, and they said it was true. Any confirmations on that people? As far as the decline of the rotory, I think most people don't understand it, so they don't give it a chance. Anyone checked out the Quasiturbine engine? Very intruiging.
Get your facts straight, go to Mazdas Corp site and look at the news releases. It was a paint plant that had a fire. Its fixed get over it.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesuscookies
You bring up a good point here from a business aspect, and I do not understand why Mazda has never taken advantage of it. The costs for keeping the rotary alive could easily be spread out over many cars if they just made it an option. Why not make the rotary an option for their most popular car, the miata? Had they done this from the beginning, they would have been able to cater to the rotary nuts, and the **** with poodles, LOL.
At one time, nearly every model in Japan was available with a rotary. They never went this way in the US thinking (correctly) that we are a country of deadbeats with regard to car maintance such as checking oil and water levels, so only offer rotary in a sports car to diehard car people.

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cpa7man
When Mazda last killed the RX-7, the Supra and Z car died as well. Too many HP 2 door sports cars, the market just could not support all of them.
The government mandate of OBD-II compliance by 1996 was a major factor in killing the turbos of that generation, add the Lotus turbo esprit to the list as well. If the FD RX-7 was a total financial disaster, the plug would have been pulled on the Japanese and other RHD markets as well, but no the car lived and improved thru 96 and 99 upgrades.

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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if i had to buy a new family car the rx8 would be a great choice for me as i have one child and am a smaller person so my children will probably be small. One other thing that may have caused the buyer to consider something else was an article in sport compact car that stated mazda fudged the hp numbers on the rx8 hopefully i am not the only one who saw this article. As far as a new rx based on the fb if they could keep the car a basic drivers car under 20k i would be first in line. no a/c no p/s no stereo no BS just hp and good handles
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Julian
If the FD RX-7 was a total financial disaster, the plug would have been pulled on the Japanese and other RHD markets as well, but no the car lived and improved thru 96 and 99 upgrades.
Cars are often kept on as flagship models. Even if they're a loss in terms of sales, they still help with image.
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:50 PM
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What the rotary really needs to take off again is some help from Hollywood. Face it, those are the people that tell us what to wear, what to think, and what is cool... How many people were wearing goatees before 90120 came out compared to after?

Remember Nightrider? That car was crap, but all of a sudden everybody had to have one. What kind of effect did The Fast and the Furious have on Honda sales (both new and used).

If Hollywood ever said that the rotary was the thing to have, then people would line up to buy them. Stupid TV addicted sumbitches that we are....
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 06:55 PM
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"Stupid TV addicted sumbitches that we are.... "

Yep

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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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It's a little light on technical aspect but covers models, prices, colors and available accessories. Quite a few colour photos but they are typical publicity shots. Very little information on engines.

I have a good library on the rotary, and have found the most interesting 'Mazda RX-7 Performance Handbook' by Mike Angas great value for money, and mine is falling tp pieces with use. Due to lack of time, I make no pretence of being a good mechanic like Trochiod and Robert and many others on the forum, but it means reading the book I can learn their language and know what is possible.

I just wish someone would produce such a book covering all the stock Mazda engined rotary cars.

you should write the book!!
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Old Mar 17, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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I would respond but I'm watching the idiot box.....
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Old Mar 18, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Julian
The government mandate of OBD-II compliance by 1996 was a major factor in killing the turbos of that generation, add the Lotus turbo esprit to the list as well. If the FD RX-7 was a total financial disaster, the plug would have been pulled on the Japanese and other RHD markets as well, but no the car lived and improved thru 96 and 99 upgrades.
Yes that's right Julian. I forgot about the OBD and emissions issues. Still if those cars sold in high enough volume (read profits) the would have figured out the rest.
On another point I really believe we will see a shakeout now. Too many 2 seaters for the market to absorb.....

a 13b in the Miata would be cool......but the new small Mazda that been posted around here has a 4cyl. go figure.
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Old Mar 19, 2006 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Kentetsu
What the rotary really needs to take off again is some help from Hollywood. Face it, those are the people that tell us what to wear, what to think, and what is cool... How many people were wearing goatees before 90120 came out compared to after?

Remember Nightrider? That car was crap, but all of a sudden everybody had to have one. What kind of effect did The Fast and the Furious have on Honda sales (both new and used).

If Hollywood ever said that the rotary was the thing to have, then people would line up to buy them. Stupid TV addicted sumbitches that we are....
Hollywood did help the RX-8 - with X-Men 2.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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From what I read the RX-8's performance fell only a hair behind its competitors, while offering better ride comfort and seating. And the sales are supposedly doing fairly well, for a small company.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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Mazda was way optimistic in their sales targets for domestic US sales. They predicted Mazda6 levels, which is patently absurd when the RX-8 isn't a truely functional 4 door and doesn't have an economy option like the 4 cyl Mazda6. Considering that the new Miata shares the floorpan and suspension with the 8 and any development of the Kabura will do the same, I woudn't worry overmuch about the future of the rotary at Mazda.
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