1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections
View Poll Results: Would you like new tail lights to 'freshen' the look of your 81-85 ReX?
Yeah, that' be cool if the price was right
5
27.78%
Nah, tail lights are the least of my worries
13
72.22%
Voters: 18. You may not vote on this poll

Renesis 1:Genesis

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 07-01-02, 07:51 PM
  #1  
add to cart

Thread Starter
 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Renesis 1:Genesis

Here's what makes sense to me:

As I stated in a previous post I'm planning to build a Renesis-powered rocket with independant rear suspension, custom interior and refreshed exterior styling, etc.

Is it feasable to offer components of this build up as separate items for sale?

For example, how many of you would like a set of custom tail lights that use clear, modern styling but don't look like they're out of an Altezza parts bin? I'm planning a set that look similar to those on an RX8 with the aluminum trim ring towards the center of the car and two aluminum character lines flowing out, following the placement of the creases in stock 81-85 tail lights.

Last edited by Manntis; 07-01-02 at 07:59 PM.
Old 07-01-02, 08:13 PM
  #2  
Driven a turbo FB lately?

iTrader: (1)
 
MIKE-P-28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Branch, Indiana
Posts: 6,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
That'd be cool, but its WAY WAY down my list. Go fast and then look good in my book
Old 07-01-02, 08:28 PM
  #3  
male stripper

iTrader: (1)
 
jeremy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: St Petersburg, FL
Posts: 3,131
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
i take it you have a manufacturing person or purchase/manufacturing person that is going to price out which injection companies the design your drafters finished up on right. sorry, couldn't resist.
Old 07-01-02, 08:45 PM
  #4  
add to cart

Thread Starter
 
Manntis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
Posts: 4,180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
actually, jeremy, I've been in touch with parts manufacturers for months costing out different plastics and their pros/cons as far as cost, manufacturing processes, etc. go - and that's just for the acoutrements. Then there's bulk purchase of mechanical components in negotiations, etc.

I post these questions in this forum as one component of an overall market research strategy.
Old 07-01-02, 09:00 PM
  #5  
Driven a turbo FB lately?

iTrader: (1)
 
MIKE-P-28's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Fort Branch, Indiana
Posts: 6,444
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally posted by Manntis
actually, jeremy, I've been in touch with parts manufacturers for months costing out different plastics and their pros/cons as far as cost, manufacturing processes, etc. go - and that's just for the acoutrements. Then there's bulk purchase of mechanical components in negotiations, etc.

I post these questions in this forum as one component of an overall market research strategy.
As far as everything goes with tail lights I think you will make a lot of money on them But remember a lot of them are off the road in junkyards, youd be better of making them for cavaliers, what a
Old 07-01-02, 09:05 PM
  #6  
I can has a Hemi? Yes...

iTrader: (2)
 
Directfreak's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: 3OH5
Posts: 9,371
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
After a while all these "what if" questions seem...well..."Iffy".

What IF I HAD:

    In the immortal words of "Dude Where's my car"..

    "There is no more AND THEN"

    Old 07-01-02, 09:24 PM
      #7  
    EliteHardcoreCannuckSquad

     
    SilverRocket's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2001
    Location: Ontario, Canada
    Posts: 2,266
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    I'd be a lot more interested in the IRS, rack and pinion steering, etc, than in taillights or bodykits.
    Old 07-01-02, 09:46 PM
      #8  
    Banned. I got OWNED!!!
     
    Wattz's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2001
    Location: Seattle
    Posts: 670
    Received 85 Likes on 71 Posts
    Yeah dude, if you sold mechanical parts you'd be loved by everyone.

    If not, then you'd start a first gen ricer revolution.

    "No, it only LOOKS like a Genesis."
    Old 07-01-02, 11:11 PM
      #9  
    add to cart

    Thread Starter
     
    Manntis's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2002
    Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
    Posts: 4,180
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    Directfreak, a feasability query is quite different than your mocking 'what if' list. Don't be the post ***** your own signature warns against.
    Old 07-01-02, 11:23 PM
      #10  
    I can has a Hemi? Yes...

    iTrader: (2)
     
    Directfreak's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2001
    Location: 3OH5
    Posts: 9,371
    Likes: 0
    Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
    Originally posted by Manntis
    Directfreak, a feasability query is quite different than your mocking 'what if' list. Don't be the post ***** your own signature warns against.
    No, No, No...

    This is Post Whoring.

    Old 07-01-02, 11:32 PM
      #11  
    add to cart

    Thread Starter
     
    Manntis's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2002
    Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
    Posts: 4,180
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    You're right. What you're doing is just being rude.
    Old 07-01-02, 11:35 PM
      #12  
    I can has a Hemi? Yes...

    iTrader: (2)
     
    Directfreak's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2001
    Location: 3OH5
    Posts: 9,371
    Likes: 0
    Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
    Originally posted by Manntis
    You're right. What you're doing is just being rude.
    Manntis, don't take me too seriously. Every once in a while I am grumpy at "generic,repeated" questions and let off some steam with the graphics.

    I just have a very sarcastic sense of humor. I am not picking on you, I was just playing.

    Old 07-01-02, 11:50 PM
      #13  
    male stripper

    iTrader: (1)
     
    jeremy's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2001
    Location: St Petersburg, FL
    Posts: 3,131
    Likes: 0
    Received 1 Like on 1 Post
    he's just saying that most of this seems like what comes and goes. nothing ever really happens. he's responding not only to you too. he also is past his diaper changing time.

    most aftermarket light kits turn out to be crap. silver falls off, etc. if you want quality then i would suggest following the plastics used by the manufacturers. reinforced, uv protected abs everywhere possible.

    these would be more appreciated by ricers. most of us want to see the irs, etc. the renesis idea is good in a unique setting but for business ventures, its going to be tough. taillights, like mike said, there just isn't going to be enough volume sold to pull the price into a reality for most and yet keep the quality that they aren't a one year adddition that ends up becoming a laugh.

    now designing an adapter and irs system that could replace our solid axle would be of far more interest, use more off the shelf parts and only be downplayed by peejay.
    Old 07-01-02, 11:54 PM
      #14  
    Punk Ass Bitch
     
    Defprun's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Dec 2003
    Location: Welland, Ontario
    Posts: 99
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    Am I the only one who thinks the tailights might look cool? And I'm not too sure, but usually, if the lights cost something like 50 bucks, im sure if it looks awesome that people would want to get them, its just a matter of getting a picture of them up and ensuring quality...blah blah blah. If you dont like them, don't buy them or put your old ones back on. You could always show them off when you are just cruising or whatever.
    Old 07-02-02, 12:33 AM
      #15  
    male stripper

    iTrader: (1)
     
    jeremy's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2001
    Location: St Petersburg, FL
    Posts: 3,131
    Likes: 0
    Received 1 Like on 1 Post
    whatever floats your boat. i wouldn't spend money on taillights when i can use it to make my car faster. otherwise i would get a civic and dick it out like everybody else but get smoked by rv's. my little 12a needs all the help it needs anyway. the irs i like since i autox and the grip that could be attained in an adjustable rear suspension plus an lsd is definitely a bonus.
    Old 07-02-02, 01:01 AM
      #16  
    EliteHardcoreCannuckSquad

     
    SilverRocket's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Apr 2001
    Location: Ontario, Canada
    Posts: 2,266
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    Jeremy, you're speaking my language hombre. Let's leave the ricer stuff for the civics that need to make up for their lack of *****. We have real cars; we don't need that junk.

    And Defprun, 50 bucks?? You're joking right? Have you checked the prices of aftermarket taillights anytime lately? Not to mention, as previously noted, that there's no way in hell of doing any kind of volume for SA/FB RX-7s.

    Personally, I think SA/FBs are magic because of their clean, classic sportscar lines. Trying to make them "modern" only makes them look confused and immature. Keep em' old school, keep em' clean.

    now designing an adapter and irs system that could replace our solid axle would be of far more interest, use more off the shelf parts and only be downplayed by peejay.
    Peejay, where ya at? You need to say something like "Why would you want a Renesis when you could have a 12A?" Come on man, don't leave me hangin...
    Old 07-02-02, 01:11 AM
      #17  
    add to cart

    Thread Starter
     
    Manntis's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Jun 2002
    Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
    Posts: 4,180
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    Thanks, guys. This is the sort of input I was looking for.

    First on my development list: a bolt-in IRS.
    Old 07-02-02, 03:07 AM
      #18  
    KARATE EXPLOSION

    iTrader: (1)
     
    cpt_gloval's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Aug 2001
    Location: Deadmonds, WA
    Posts: 2,991
    Received 33 Likes on 19 Posts
    honestly i can't see how the stock FD taillights can be improved
    Old 07-02-02, 07:30 AM
      #19  
    Driven a turbo FB lately?

    iTrader: (1)
     
    MIKE-P-28's Avatar
     
    Join Date: Oct 2001
    Location: Fort Branch, Indiana
    Posts: 6,444
    Likes: 0
    Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
    Originally posted by Directfreak
    After a while all these "what if" questions seem...well..."Iffy".

    What IF I HAD:

      In the immortal words of "Dude Where's my car"..

      "There is no more AND THEN"

      Are you in a bad mood there Alex ?????
      Old 07-02-02, 10:59 AM
        #20  
      KARATE EXPLOSION

      iTrader: (1)
       
      cpt_gloval's Avatar
       
      Join Date: Aug 2001
      Location: Deadmonds, WA
      Posts: 2,991
      Received 33 Likes on 19 Posts
      Originally posted by cpt_gloval
      honestly i can't see how the stock FD taillights can be improved
      fB. i meant fb. hehe.
      Old 07-02-02, 02:48 PM
        #21  
      standard combustion

       
      WackyRotary's Avatar
       
      Join Date: Dec 2001
      Location: Twin Cities Minnesota
      Posts: 1,374
      Likes: 0
      Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
      Personally I don't really even like those clear lens things on newer cars. I don't see the point. I don't see how they make it look more "modern". I don't see how they do anything for making it easier to see the brake lights when they are applied. This is just my opinion, But I wouldn't want to make my car look any different from stock as doing this has made my car a magnet for the wrong attention: Cops, ricers, cops, ricers, cops, ricers. This is also why I will NOT get a large crom tip for the exhuast, it attracts the wrong attention and is out of perportion to the nessessary size of the piping leading to the muffler. I guess I'm just "anti-rice".

      Pretty much anything that isn't really functional and improves power or performance is worth the trouble. The "attractiveness" of having such as a newer style brake-light will probably go out of style after a while also like fins on cars in the late 50's and 60's.
      Old 07-02-02, 06:32 PM
        #22  
      RicanRider

       
      JoseReyes's Avatar
       
      Join Date: Feb 2001
      Location: Steilacoom, WA
      Posts: 499
      Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
      NO, you're not alone... I think they would look cool too...



      Originally posted by defprun
      Am I the only one who thinks the tailights might look cool? And I'm not too sure, but usually, if the lights cost something like 50 bucks, im sure if it looks awesome that people would want to get them, its just a matter of getting a picture of them up and ensuring quality...blah blah blah. If you dont like them, don't buy them or put your old ones back on. You could always show them off when you are just cruising or whatever.
      Old 07-02-02, 07:09 PM
        #23  
      male stripper

      iTrader: (1)
       
      jeremy's Avatar
       
      Join Date: Oct 2001
      Location: St Petersburg, FL
      Posts: 3,131
      Likes: 0
      Received 1 Like on 1 Post
      you two guys want to pay 200 a piece? thats about where the pricing falls right now.

      i like liquorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
      Old 07-03-02, 11:14 PM
        #24  
      Old [Sch|F]ool

       
      peejay's Avatar
       
      Join Date: May 2001
      Location: Cleveland, Ohio, USA
      Posts: 12,506
      Received 416 Likes on 296 Posts
      The stock '79-80 taillights are perfect, altering them would be a sin
      Old 07-03-02, 11:52 PM
        #25  
      add to cart

      Thread Starter
       
      Manntis's Avatar
       
      Join Date: Jun 2002
      Location: Saskatoon, SK & Montreal, PQ
      Posts: 4,180
      Likes: 0
      Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
      I'm referring to 81-85. They tend to lose their seal and get full of dirt/cloudy in northern climes


      Quick Reply: Renesis 1:Genesis



      All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:07 AM.